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Old 20-06-2005, 15:20   #1
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[Football] Season ticket prices - are they getting beyond a joke now?

Just watching a report on SSN about Arsenal's season ticket prices with a list of a few others and it's staggering how much it's costing now to support your team and the way things are going the ordinary fans will soon not be able to afford it imo.

It's not even as if the facilities are that great - hard plastic seat with no leg room, treated like dirt by stewards and police and contempt by the clubs/TV companies, herded like cattle outside the grounds and no guarantee of 90 minutes entertainment for your money. It's about time the clubs realised that the fans are their most important asset and treat them as such imo - without the fans there'd be no sponsorship/marketing opportunities and TV companies wouldn't want to show them as they couldn't sell adverts or get sponsorship themselves.

Here's the list they showed:

Arsenal: £885-£1,825
Tottenham: £540-£1,350
Chelsea: £650-£1,150
Newcastle: £333-£855
Portsmouth: £560-£710
Man Utd: £389-£684 (what the hell are the fans moaning about - jammy sods)

I think the biggest surprise there is how much Pompey are charging (it dosen't seem that long ago I was paying £3.50 a ticket), especially as no really big names at Fratton Park - although I guess it's down to our small capacity atm (20,000), so hopefully prices will get more realistic when the grounds finished and capacity raised to 32,000 or 36,000. You can also see why Man td get so many fans - easily the cheapest to watch and success too.

Nb. Arsenal's does include 7 cup matches too (although how they can guarantee that is beyond me - they could get knocked out early).
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Old 20-06-2005, 15:29   #2
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Mate they were beyond a joke about 5 years ago. I have long been priced out of the game to the point where I have much more interest in cricket and rugby. The off-field antics don't help as well but some of the prices now are just ridiculous.

The most worrying thing is purely the short-sighted nature of it as well. Where are the next generation of fans going to come from if fathers (or mothers) simply can't afford to take their kids to a game (although taking into consideration the woeful standard and dreadful behaviour, why would they want to?!).

Pah to the Premier League and pah to football...
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Old 20-06-2005, 15:45   #3
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My ST this season is £300.
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Old 20-06-2005, 16:15   #4
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I think the biggest surprise there is how much Pompey are charging
You're telling me !!! £30 they charged me last season to sit in the uncovered away end for the Liverpool Premiership game
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Old 20-06-2005, 17:03   #5
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How do Pompey get away with charging so much? Is it quite an affluent area as Fratton Park certainly doesn't show that aspect
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Old 20-06-2005, 17:23   #6
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How do Pompey get away with charging so much? Is it quite an affluent area as Fratton Park certainly doesn't show that aspect
Not really an affluent area, but I suppose after years of lower league football and demand outstripping supply they must feel they can get away with it. Hopefully when the grounds done and we have a higher capacity the prices will drop.

Personally I think it's a scandelous amount, and even if I was well enough to go, couldn't afford it now anyway - to give an example of how prices have risen:

1987 - Ticket = £3.50 income at the time £35pw (benefit) so ticket was 1/10th
2005 - Ticket = £30 Benefit (I believe) £55pw ticket now over 1/2

I've used benefit as the example because a) thats what I was getting in 1987 and b) benefit rises in line with inflation annually, so showing ticket prices certainly haven't and what makes it worse is that clubs have never been better off financially due to the TV money and it's about time they gave something back instead of trying to milk even more - do clubs really need 3 shirts? Surely the 1st choice shirt should be worn at all times and only changed for a 2nd choice if there's a clash (and the 2nd choice a suitably different colour so that won't clash too) - not like us - 1st Choice = Royal blue, change shirt = dark blue so needing a 3rd choice of white
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hey, I'm an Everton season ticket holder and as a end of season treat, I went to the game agaisnt Arsenal at Highbury in May with the old man.

£50 per ticket (face value) for row Z, back against the wall top of the stand. And they stuffed us 7-0....now thats entertainment.
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Old 20-06-2005, 17:28   #8
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Been to a few Macclesfield Town games with a mate from work this season-17 quid a ticket for home fans!!!!
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Wouldnt mind seeing a comparison with Italy, Spain and Germany to see if rip off UK is
still alive and kicking.
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Old 20-06-2005, 17:46   #10
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Wouldnt mind seeing a comparison with Italy, Spain and Germany to see if rip off UK is
still alive and kicking.
My brother lives in Dusseldorf so has 3 or 4 teams in the area to go watch :- Leverkusen, Shalke, Dortmund, Cologne etc and he was saying it was about 18 or 19 Euro to watch a game - converts to what, about £12-£13. Compare that to the last game at Birmingham against Arsenal last season - £42.

Oh yeah, I'd say rip off Britain is in full effect!

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Old 20-06-2005, 17:55   #11
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My brother lives in Dusseldorf so has 3 or 4 teams in the area to go watch :- Leverkusen, Shalke, Dortmund, Cologne etc and he was saying it was about 18 or 19 Euro to watch a game - converts to what, about £12-£13.

And they provide buses to the game!! I remember watching a report last season where the season ticket price for one top flight German team worked out (at the end of the season) at £4 per game.
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I guess it's down to our small capacity atm (20,000), so hopefully prices will get more realistic when the grounds finished and capacity raised to 32,000 or 36,000
Don't be so sure! Our capacity is about 35,000 IIRC (West Ham, Upton Park) and the season tickets for this season coming are

£745-515 for an Adult
£53-37 for a category A game (ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs etc.)
£43-30 for a cat B game (About 10 or 11 games)

A child non-member (my daughter aged 10) will be, for cat A games £28.50 - 20.50 and for cat B £20-16

now THAT'S extortionate
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Old 20-06-2005, 18:53   #13
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I was considering getting a season ticket for Forest this year, but they are £450 (plus 10% surcharge if paying by credit card, 5% if it's a capital one card) next season.
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The basics of supply and demand. My season ticket for Ibrox is £385.

You're buying entertainment (well depending on what team you support I guess).

You could always choose to keep the cash in your pocket and get a Sky Sports sub for £30ish a month. Gets you a lot more games.
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If you pay it they will charge it

I know people who went to the Euro cup last year and match tickets cost less than a ticket to Bristol Rovers.

Don't know rip off Britain really applies, but it would be funny if we all started to go to German/French matches because the whole trip worked out cheaper.
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I was considering getting a season ticket for Forest this year, but they are £450 (plus 10% surcharge if paying by credit card, 5% if it's a capital one card) next season.
That's fairly shocking for League 1 football. What are e.g. Leicester charging ? Can't be much more.

My ticket at Everton is £460 and we've had some enormous hikes in price over the last few seasons ; it increased by ~20% last year alone.

I think it represents fair value but I'd hate to be a father taking a couple of kids to the game nowadays. The expense on a fortnightly basis must be astronomical.
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The basics of supply and demand. My season ticket for Ibrox is £385.

You're buying entertainment (well depending on what team you support I guess).

You could always choose to keep the cash in your pocket and get a Sky Sports sub for £30ish a month. Gets you a lot more games.
Very true - but it only really works if you support a big club as they're on TV all the time, if you follow a lesser club you'd never get to watch them.
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Mine for Holte End Upper Tier has gone up £25 to £425. Still one of the cheapest in the prem and even cheaper than the slum dwellers and Olbiyun.

Blues charged us £45 last season for an away ticket. Beyond a joke lately. Once every premiership team has their own tv station the attendences will dip big time.
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Old 20-06-2005, 20:00   #19
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A ticket for Nottingham Forest last season was between £25 and £30, in most cases it was cheaper for the away ticket and a coach than a home ticket. I don't think they've decreased them for the new season.

Man Utd have always been quite cheap tbh, back when Forest played them I was surprised how reasonable they were. They could easily double the prices and people would still pay (one of the conditions that made them ripe for a takeover)

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I was considering getting a season ticket for Forest this year, but they are £450 (plus 10% surcharge if paying by credit card, 5% if it's a capital one card) next season.
At Palace I got a renewal in January for £300. Last season in the Premiership was £265 - probably the cheapest Premiership season ticket last year. Even now, when all the discounts have finished, a ticket for next season in the Championship is only £450. And I understand it is quite easy to persuade the club to sell you tickets at the early purchasers discounts, even if you missed out! Palace always claim to charge a Credit Card surcharge too, but never bother and also include a free pair of guest tickets to a 'Category B' match with each season ticket.

For an extra £50 I also get a 'Gold Upgrade' which consists of a programme at every game (including cup matches), £10 club shop voucher, another free guest ticket to a game, 10% reduction on coach travel and a free subscription to the club magazine SE25.

We've already got over 10,000 tickets sold for next season. Mostly because whilst the season tickets are a relative bargain, match day tickets are an absolute rip off!
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