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Old 29-07-2004, 12:26   #81
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Perhaps they are going to go for a different style of character. Perhaps the first black Bond, or a very young Bond. Maybe even female.
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Old 29-07-2004, 12:29   #82
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I quite like the sound of Alexis Denisof being the new Bond. However, before that I think Brosnan should be given the chance to finish on a GE-quality script.
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Old 29-07-2004, 12:42   #83
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I'd go with Hugh Jackman or Keifer Sutherland....or both!
Yes, but who do you want for Bond?
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Old 29-07-2004, 13:09   #84
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I reckon Brosnan will be back, towards the end of the Roj era there were always huge stories just before filming started that he wouldn't do another, and a deal was always reached at the last minute.

I thought TWINE was pretty good (but not brilliant) but DAD was so frustrating because it could have been great. The 'speed ramp' editing, poor CGI and the invisible car all dragged the film down.

Imagine if it had been edited traditionally (speed ramps ironically look soooooo old fashioned), the invisible car dumped and the ending changed. You could just lose the CGI surf bit - it adds nothing to the plot and looks cack. Film a straightforward live action ending - no need for the obvious CGI plane and the bizarre electronic suit thing that Graves wears and it'd be great.

Actually that's quite a few changes!

Some people argue that you need CGI to up the action stakes and I've actually got no argument about how on screen effects are achieved but it MUST look real (maybe use it sparingly to enhance real action). Think back to the great Bond action sequences of the past - Bond running over crocodiles (LALD), the ski jump (TSWLM), hanging off a plane (OP, TLD etc), all simple concepts well executed and with a wow factor. It needs imagination, not computers.

Anyway, drifting well OT now so I'll stop - but I think a deal will be done with Brosnan.
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Old 29-07-2004, 17:17   #85
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Some people argue that you need CGI to up the action stakes and I've actually got no argument about how on screen effects are achieved but it MUST look real (maybe use it sparingly to enhance real action). Think back to the great Bond action sequences of the past - Bond running over crocodiles (LALD), the ski jump (TSWLM), hanging off a plane (OP, TLD etc), all simple concepts well executed and with a wow factor. It needs imagination, not computers.

Anyway, drifting well OT now so I'll stop - but I think a deal will be done with Brosnan.
I thoroughly agree - I thought the CGI stunts were poor, but poor CGI stunts in a Bond film was a huge insult. The Bond series is famous for pushing the stunt envelope - you always KNEW a breath-taking stunt in a Bond movie was being done for real by someone (the shots of The Eyebrow in front of a back-projection not-withstanding!)

It doesn't matter how much money you throw at CGI FX, they will ALWAYS look fake - nothing beats having a real stuntman actually DOING the stunt. If anything, use CGI for head-replacement - to ensure the stuntman resembles your leading man.

Get someone fresh in to write it - Tarantino perhaps, and a talented action director - like Jim Cameron, not some Wachowski wannabe no-one has heard of.
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Old 30-07-2004, 08:19   #86
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Historically though, Bond actors tend to be those who've been in the running for the role in the past.
Absolutely, this is exactly what I've been thinking...

If Brosnan is out - and it's still a BIG if (remember both Connery and Moore stated publically, on several ocassions, that they had quit before returning) - my guess is that Eon will turn to an actor they've previously approached and considered.

Moore and Dalton were approached by Cubby several years before they finally got the role (Moore, I believe, was considered as early as Dr No, with Cubby meeting Dalton around the time of OHMSS when the actor was in his early 20s), as was Bronsan himself (he was introduced to Cubby when his first wife Cassandra Harris took a small role in For Your Eyes Only, and then - famously- nearly starred in The Living Daylights).

The only actor that came in completely fresh and unknown to the series (excluding Connery in Dr No, though he'd at least had previous film roles to gauge) was Lazenby, and look what happened there?

So, going by that track record, it wouldn't surprise me if Eon considered actors that they've had their eyes on for some years. I've heard that both Greg Wise and James Purefoy were very strong contenders behind Brosnan for GoldenEye, so maybe it could be those guys?

Also, Eon have, historically, shunned big STAR names in favour of solid actors, so I also think all this talk of people like Jude Law and Hugh Jackman (and any other 'flavour of the month') is a little wide of the mark.

As for Clive Owen, well, he seems pretty damned dismissive of the whole thing and I have my doubts that he'd sign up for three/four picture deal. Also, I actually think he's rather bland. I think this is more of a fanboy wish, and it really does seem like he hasn't even been approached, as he constantly denies it in interviews and I've seen him get pretty rattled over this.

I would have loved Christian Bale, but he's commited to Batman (which, to be honest, is probably a role more suited to his intense, dark, introverted acting sensibilities), and Jeremy Northam is another favourite of mine.

Still, truth is until Eon and MGM make an official announcement we can speculate till hell freezes over. My bet is that the next 007 will be a complete surprise (after all, WHO had really heard of Dalton before Bond?) And I don't count Brosnan out yet... remember, Never say Never...

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Old 30-07-2004, 08:21   #87
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Perhaps they are going to go for a different style of character. Perhaps the first black Bond, or a very young Bond. Maybe even female.
You forgot that other classic wild rumour: Gay Bond
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Old 30-07-2004, 11:49   #88
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Or maybe James Pond?

They could cgi the entire film and get celebrity's to voice all the characters!
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Art Malick should play the next Bond. He's British to a tee.
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I like Kiefer Sutherland alot, but he seems very worn out at times, he's a alcholic, and for 38 years of age, Brosnan and Moore looked more youthful throughout their 40s then him, Kiefer might of been a great Bond if he played him alot younger.

I remember Joel Schumacher saying of Kiefer, even when he was young, he had a old soul in him, I find that true, I think if EON ever considered the young Bond films, Kiefer would of been brilliant, because he was one of the few actors who had this old soul feel about him, the problem now is he's actually gotten older.


Hugh Jackman though has great on screen charisma, Connery was rough around the edges until he was in a suit, Jackman is as rough as they can come with Wolverine, but in a suit, I say Connery's style with some of Dalton's intensity, Dalton looked a bit like a wolf as well.






But I think there's still a chance Brosnan is coming back for Bond 21, Both Roger and Sean quit publicy before coming back, it's a ploy maybe for negotiations.

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Christian Bale, anyone?
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Old 30-07-2004, 19:27   #92
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Christian Bale, anyone?
He's busy doing Batman and probably future sequels, i don't think Bale would be the sort of actor to sign up for Bond, maybe if nolan was directing and they get rid of the producers

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I think Brosnan should make a new, more intelligent, thriller-type "spy" film just to show the producers the kind of film he really wants to make.

I would love it if they made a "real" Bond film again - as all these explosions, invisible cars, kite surfing are really ruining it.

Loved Goldeneye to be fair, but perhaps they should look to remake some of Fleming's original stories before going for new ones.

p.s My vote for Bond goes to Christian Bale. A shame it's unlikely.
Fave Bond = Brosnan for his portrayal, but Connery's films.

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I've never really seen Clive Owen as a suitable Bond candidate. I can't imagine him lightening up enough to bring any humour to the character (and I don't mean Roger Moore's 'Sid James' version of Bond, just getting the right balance between dark and light that Connery and Brosnan had).

Jeremy Northam would look the part. He always seems to play slightly bewildered characters though ...
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Interesting news here:

http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/...s/2469-1.shtml
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it was reported on the radio News a couple of days ago that xmen star Hugh Jackman had accepted the 007 role and he is the New james Bond.
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it was reported on the radio News a couple of days ago that xmen star Hugh Jackman had accepted the 007 role and he is the New james Bond.
I wouldn't have a problem with Jackman as Bond. Yes he's high profile, but maybe that's what the series needs. Who knows, might squeeze a bit more money out of the studio to do a decent job of things?
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As I said, it aint over yet:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5550607/

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Isn't Roger Moore's son being considered for the part of Bond?
I presume he has more than one? I was at college with his son (who, incidentally, was a right prat - introduced himself as "Roger Moore's son" ) so that would make him 'only' 30 which is a bit young imo.
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As I said, it aint over yet
Frankly, I hope it is over.

I've never been very impressed by Brosnan as Bond. He's got "the look," but he's about as much use on screen as a cardboard cut-out. The only personality trait I could ascribe to him is a general air of smugness.

I'd probably rank him lowest out of all the Bonds, although to be fair he's probably got the edge over Woody Allen's Jimmy Bond in Casino Royale.

I endured Roger Moore's comical, avuncular, eyebrow-raising antics during my childhood, but at least he was always entertaining.

The sooner Brosnan goes, the better.

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