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Old 14-08-2008, 13:48   #21
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Dec 1st for the UK:

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Old 14-08-2008, 15:02   #22
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Hmmm. They keep harping on about including the long-lost version of Conquest but there's still no mention of the extended edition of Battle, which itself was released on R1 DVD only two years ago and is yet to debut over here.

I hope Fox haven't conveniently forgotten about it so they can release it on a separate disc later on. . .
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Old 14-08-2008, 15:12   #23
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I might be giving Fox more credit than they strictly deserve, but perhaps it's just that the extended/restored Battle was news 2 years ago, but not such a big deal now? Maybe it's just been assimilated as the standard version now.

Or maybe the materials used to restore it were only SD quality (Japanese laserdisc master?) and they're keeping quiet about it?

OT: for those who've seen the extra Battle scenes, does anyone have any theories on how the missile found its way from LA to New York in time for Beneath?
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Old 14-08-2008, 17:13   #24
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I suppose so Jonnof. I'm just surprised that they'd take it for granted so quickly, and they still haven't released it over here at all. The UK press release would've been a perfect time to mention it, but why do that when an identikit one will do.
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I believe that the additional scenes in Battle are material from the cutting room floor that was added to the US tv broadcast to make it long enough for a 2 hour slot- rather like they have done with other films like Superman The Movie and The Towering Inferno.

Whether any or all of those additional scenes make it to HD depends on their history of preservation.

Obviously the Superman material was looked after as some of that extra footage made it onto Bluray but the Battle and Inferno scenes dont look that good.

Maybe Fox will use branching to give us the option to include them in the film if we want
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Old 15-08-2008, 09:14   #26
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Indeed - in cases where the condition of footage varies so extremely, it should ultimately be the viewer's choice.

I can't imagine why anyone would prefer the theatrical version of Battle over the extended, just based on content alone (it only amounts to a couple of minutes, and does add a lovely bit of continuity) but if you're watching an HD transfer and the image suddenly drops to VHS quality during the added scenes, I can see why that might not always be favourable.

A good comparison is The Wicker Man - I tend to watch the director's cut because the content is what's important to me, but it's clearly a good thing that the theatrical is also included for those who don't appreciate the source chopping and changing...
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Indeed - in cases where the condition of footage varies so extremely, it should ultimately be the viewer's choice.

I can't imagine why anyone would prefer the theatrical version of Battle over the extended, just based on content alone (it only amounts to a couple of minutes, and does add a lovely bit of continuity) but if you're watching an HD transfer and the image suddenly drops to VHS quality during the added scenes, I can see why that might not always be favourable.

A good comparison is The Wicker Man - I tend to watch the director's cut because the content is what's important to me, but it's clearly a good thing that the theatrical is also included for those who don't appreciate the source chopping and changing...
Actually the extended version of Battle is almost 10 minutes longer than the theatrical version.

I have to say that I prefer the theatrical version and the additional scenes were in the right place on the cutting room floor - they look like what they are - padding.

Of course - the footage exists so the completist in me would not be without the extra bits but a branching option would be the best idea for both Conquest and Battle
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This looks intriguing but I can't really justify spending the money. I just hope they hurry up and bring out the films individually so I can by the first film (ditto The matrix)
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Review of first film over at the Beav
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:53   #30
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I have the cheap sd boxset, so if and when I get a BD player Id just buy the first and maybe, just maybe, the second. Forget the rest.
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Review of first film over at the Beav

Why does anyone rate this Beaver guy as being authoritative when he comes out with tired rubbish like "being a 40 year old film it can only look so good".

As most of us know - there is no reason why any 35mm film cannot look as perfect today as it did in 1967 as long as its been looked after

Thats why we have HD versions of films from the 40's and 50's and why they look superb.

I expect newbies to think that only films for the last few years wont be good on Bluray because "they were not made in HD" but how does this guy rate the amount of links to his reviews we see on these forums when he seems clueless about basics

Back to the Apes films- and I'm waiting to see if the UK buyers are ripped off with inferior packaging and whether we will get the book that is supposed to be in the US set.

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Old 01-11-2008, 23:16   #32
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I think he gets links because he posts nice big pics to gawp at.
I certainly don't read the text.
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Yep, its a great site for comparisons of SD stuff compared to the BD...
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I think DVDBeaver is a great site also, in the past it I used it for R1 vs R2 comparisons but now lots of great SD vs HD reviews

As BlueDwarf said it's great to see screen caps to compare

Back on our release of POTA who knows what we're going to get, I've put in a pre-order on WHSmith with their 10% voucher and some cashback works out at £46.47 which isn't bad for 5 films that I for one love... I never upgraded to the superior R1 set, so I feel I deserve an upgrade - would love to have the US book though, but with the US dollar rate and import duty it would work out rather expensive...

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Yep, put a pre-order in with WHSmith for £50 delivered.

10% discount code expires today...
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While I do frequently visit the Beaver, they're certainly not the most reliable site. It was only recently that they started doing proper caps of HD material, instead of taking pictures of a plasma screen...
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10% discount code expires today...
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I think DVDBeaver is a great site also, in the past it I used it for R1 vs R2 comparisons but now lots of great SD vs HD reviews

As BlueDwarf said it's great to see screen caps to compare

Back on our release of POTA who knows what we're going to get, I've put in a pre-order on WHSmith with their 10% voucher and some cashback works out at £46.47 which isn't bad for 5 films that I for one love... I never upgraded to the superior R1 set, so I feel I deserve an upgrade - would love to have the US book though, but with the US dollar rate and import duty it would work out rather expensive...
Do you know for sure that the UK set wont include the book?
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Do you know for sure that the UK set wont include the book?
No, not for sure but from the pictures on the web sites it does look just like a normal Blu-Ray box rather than the extravagent pictures on the US sites

Would also be good to get a few more details about what we are gettting with regards to the cuts of Conquest and Battle...
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Just a quick heads-up to say that playusa have the Blu box for a seriously silly £51.99. Even if it gets hit by Customs, it'll work out just slightly over amazon.com's asking price of £67-ish (which is itself open for a Customs hit!) and over a fiver less than Axel's current price of £75.

This is Region A only and the packaging will be bilingual, but I don't mind a bit of Franglish writing to save a few quid.

Edit: The scan of the box at Axel indicates that the extended and theatrical versions are there for both Conquest and Battle!

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