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Old 06-03-2006, 15:54   #41
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Where the hell are the DVDs in that thing? Do you have to remove the top bit of it's head to get at them? If it is, they need to include 'Hannibal' in the set too.
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Old 30-03-2006, 21:18   #42
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So has anyone got this set yet?
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Old 05-04-2006, 22:08   #43
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Is the R1 Legacy Collection basically the same set without the ape head ?
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:54   #44
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Is the R1 Legacy Collection basically the same set without the ape head ?
The Legacy Boxset consists of the five feature films, plus an additional disc with extras. In other words, it omits the TV series, the cartoon series, the 2001 remake, and (of course) the ape head packaging.

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Old 06-04-2006, 12:17   #45
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The Legacy Boxset consists of the five feature films, plus an additional disc with extras. In other words, it omits the TV series, the cartoon series, the 2001 remake, and (of course) the ape head packaging.
forgot to edit my initial post. I meant in terms of the 5 films - are they the remastered versions etc. Not bothered about the TV and cartoon series and already have the 2001 verison.
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Old 06-04-2006, 14:17   #46
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forgot to edit my initial post. I meant in terms of the 5 films - are they the remastered versions etc. Not bothered about the TV and cartoon series and already have the 2001 verison.

In a word, yes. But... according to a couple of European review sites that would know (dvduell and dvd scan) for the first film the best quality transfer is the original (not 35th Anniversary) anamorphic R2 disc with has more fine detail and less edge enhancement. The 5.1 soundtrack is also apparently more dynamic and faithful to the original tracks than the R1. The R1 non-anamorphic transfers of the other four are supposedly superior to the anamorphic R2s due to a higher bitrate but there's little in it.

Fox refers to the new discs (Legacy Edition, Ape Head, single discs) as being "remastered in anamorphic widescreen". Planet is probably the same transfer as on the 35th Anniversary disc. The other four are anamorphic transfers (a first for R1) but there's no specific info stating whether these have been cleaned up atall or are from a HD source. The one and main exception being Battle which is the extended cut so logically has come from a different source to the original release.

There aren't many online reviews of the new set around but DVD Talk reckon the transfers are "stellar" and better than the R2s then somewhat contradict themselves by commenting that Planet and Beneath look great while the later films don't appear that much different.
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Old 06-04-2006, 20:21   #47
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Forget the R2 set its a ripoff.
The R2 set is simply everything that has gone before + the cartoons.
No effort has gone into it whatsoever.
The R1 set has the 5 original movies very spruced up.
The first film is the 35th Anniversary version,but from Beneath to Battle ,all films are remastered(stated on the boxes),and look it,much better than the R2 versions,and all the other 4 are also in 5.1,unlike the R2 which are in standard surround except Escape which is mono.
Best of all,the R1 versio of Battle is the extended version over 96 minutes,while the R2 set is the same old version we had before.
So anyone who has "invested" in the R2 Ape head may be sensible to shift it on ebay before its widely known what a ripoff it is,and get the R1 ser instead.
The cartoons will be available individually(on R1 at least) in the next few weeks.
But the R2 set may be going cheap sooner than you think.
With Apehead releases simultaneously on R1 and R2 its incredible that we have this blatantly inferior version in the UK

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Old 06-04-2006, 20:51   #48
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With Apehead releases simultaneously on R1 and R2 its incredible that we have this blatantly inferior version in the UK
Sadly it happens all too often, and is anything but incredible
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Old 06-04-2006, 22:36   #49
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Sadly it happens all too often, and is anything but incredible
But it rarely happens these days,especially with such a high profile and high cost release.
The Hollywood biggies usually take care to prevent major omissions and I can't think of another example of this magnitude-not when the same company is releasing both versions
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Aren't the R2's of the films in the ape head release supposedly not remastered like the new R1's?
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Aren't the R2's of the films in the ape head release supposedly not remastered like the new R1's?
They didnt really need to be remastered though because they were already Anamorphic where as the R1 releases were non-Anamorphic so needed to be re-done.

They could have added the 5.1 audio to the R2 releases and included the extended version of 'Battle' but I guess the cost would have been higher so they decided to take the cheap option and stuck the already available releases in the Ape Head.

I guess the R2 release isnt really a rip off but you definitely get more value for your money with the R1 release.

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What's the packaging for the R1 Legacy set like? Amarays?
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What's the packaging for the R1 Legacy set like? Amarays?
Ron Epstein posted some photos of it at the HTF - here.
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The R2 is a ripoff as its simply all previous releases combined + the cartoons.
At least the R1 version gives us a reason to buy with extended BATTLE and that 5.1 was badly needed,especially on ESCAPE which is mono on R2.
R1 also offer the films individually and in the LEGACY set.
But it appears that the cartoons may not be released individually as originally thought.
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Ron Epstein posted some photos of it at the HTF - here.
Thanks. Looks like it's the same as the old R1 release. I was hoping they'd go with a more space saving package like M'Lock or thinpacks.
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Why on earth would you want 5.1 remixes on the Apes films?

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Why on earth would you want 5.1 remixes on the Apes films?
Indeed, I can't understand why anyone would want anything other than the original sound mix.
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Do the new R1 releases have the original soundtrack?
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I can't understand why anyone would want to listen in mono when a superb 5.1 soundtrack improves the viewing experience.
If you are happy with mono you may aswell just listen through your tv speakers.
But the R1 collection does retain the mono track for those interested

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But the 'superb' remixed 5.1 soundtrack is an abomination has nothing to do with the film as originally made. That's why many of us on this forum would always wish to listen to the original mono soundtrack and object when it is not provided.

Presumably, you're the sort of person who would agree with colourising black and white films as well. If not, explain how that's different to fiddling around with the original soundtrack.
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