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Old 09-09-2009, 22:55   #101
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Ok here's another one. He keeps his hand over his mouth for the five numbers.His right hand is out of sight as well all the time. Microphone to a stooge rigging the balls ?
Either that or it meant they could turn off his mic so that it didn't pick up any ball jiggling noises
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Old 09-09-2009, 22:55   #102
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For those who didn't see it:

At 2.05 the camera suddenly freezes for 3 or 4 seconds right before Derren moves over to reveal the numbers....

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Old 09-09-2009, 22:56   #103
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Ok here's another one. He keeps his hand over his mouth for the five numbers.His right hand is out of sight as well all the time. Microphone to a stooge rigging the balls ?
Well any assistant could just look at the TV or some one else could tell him.. it'd be a bit silly for Derren to do that while on camera. I agree that was another "oddity" of it. Jonathan Creek would have this all wrapped up with all these clues... I just can't quite put my finger on it. Something doesn't sit right.
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Old 09-09-2009, 22:57   #104
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i will go for tiny ink sprays or stamps in the stand thing that imprints the numbers on the balls as they are drawn. or a lazer pen that burns the numbers from behind.

its clever anyway.
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Old 09-09-2009, 22:59   #105
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Why would he need a mic to tell them, don't they have a TV?
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:02   #106
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He might make up some ******** about how he did it (to make himself look good), but really it was just camera trickery.
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Interesting. I love Derren's shows.

The stage show beforehand was brilliant.
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:08   #108
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The slight camera motion looks like an effect of the "free standing" camera man (probably a more correct technical term ) - it's the camera being carried by the cameraman that followed him in as he walked across the room...
The footage of him walking in was handheld, but there was a cut when he waved to the other camera in the corner. When it cut back to him upclose I suspect it was no longer the handheld camera. Maybe another one set up out of view, with a good zoom

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He might make up some ******** about how he did it (to make himself look good), but really it was just camera trickery.
Well the point of the Friday show is to show us how we can do it ourselves, so if we can't it'll be a crap show. Showmanship/Entertainment fail. I'll be out Friday so will have to record it... dam life getting in the way of tv.
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:14   #110
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At 2.05 the camera suddenly freezes for 3 or 4 seconds right before Derren moves over the reveal the numbers....
It's less than 3/4 seconds I think but there is a definite freeze of the camera wobble there as you say - stand out quite bit when you are looking for it...

EDIT: actually - it is 3-4 seconds

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Old 10-09-2009, 00:03   #111
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You can see when they do the split screen switch. Look at the left most ball in the stand, when Derren says 23 it rises up slightly.
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As the numbers start to be drawn the volume from the bbc seems to go up as derren puts his hand over his mouth and doesnt speak, I presume at this time the sound is totally the bbc feed so as not to hear any noise from the floor. I also think the writting of the numbers on the card is just to give them extra time after the draw so ensure everything is set up and aligned etc. The the left hand pic is switched during the static periord (or during the wobble just before it)

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Old 10-09-2009, 00:46   #113
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It's definitely split screen.

Example:

Watch this


then this

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Seems pretty obvious to me that with statements like thats 1 year of my life he has actually shot every single permutation of the lottery results (how long would that take lol) and the footage is switched when he moves over to the stand. So no matter what the lottery numbers thrown up it would JUST be a matter of switching to that footage.

Did he not say he might only get 5 out of the 6 correct so maybe got bored and chanced he would have the footage "in the can".
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:49   #115
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i will go for tiny ink sprays or stamps in the stand thing that imprints the numbers on the balls as they are drawn. or a lazer pen that burns the numbers from behind.
Then how do you explain him writing the same numbers on a board with a pen in full view?
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:36   #116
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I doubt it would be the wifi ink as the number 2 ball would have read 2 on the ball not 02 as he wrote it as just 2.
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:52   #117
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he writes it on the board, someone reads the board and types those numbers into some CLEVER MACHINE TM

its either that or the whole camera is live on one side, darren had already acted "watching the lottery numbers" and that bits filmed, then they switch back to life after the numbers drawn and the balls swapped into place.

Its very clever, has us all wondering how its done.

And if you think its not clever and just stupid. well why bother watching? the point is that he isn't phsyic, but has done something clever (be it ink on balls or time switching cameras) to make us think he is.
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If its a camera trick what would be the point? Anyone could do that.

Has he used camera tricks in the past?
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Then how do you explain him writing the same numbers on a board with a pen in full view?
I don't see the relevance of this? He wrote the numbers down after they were drawn, so nothing special there at all
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You can see when they do the split screen switch. Look at the left most ball in the stand, when Derren says 23 it rises up slightly.
That looks odd but how does that indicate a split screen switch? He's already turned them around at that point!

I thought it looked odd at first but I Think it's just because they're tightly packed in, when he pushed one in it moved one of the others up.
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