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Old 10-10-2020, 16:19   #1
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Pixar's Soul

Was quite looking forward to this but ... it is no longer getting a cinema release at all. Instead it is going straight to Disney+ from Christmas Day.

At least, unlike Mulan, you won't have to pay extra to see it
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Old 10-10-2020, 17:10   #2
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I didn't realise it would be free. Maybe Mulan didn't do that well but I cannot see any stats to say it did or it didn't, and I guess they won't release them?

I suppose no marketing budget needed, a few more subscribers, it's possibly not a bad move
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Old 28-12-2020, 15:58   #3
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It's pretty decent viewing. Found the story didn't flow as well as Disney's finest but it was fine. Nice diversion but won't be remembered.
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Old 28-12-2020, 16:04   #4
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I thought it was a wonderful film. I only saw the first trailer and thought that it was one to miss but as it was free on Disney+, we decided to sit and watch as a family and my wife and I were surprised how much we enjoyed it.
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Old 28-12-2020, 19:56   #5
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I enjoyed this. But some people are lauding it as Pixar's best when it falls well short of that.
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Old 28-12-2020, 23:43   #6
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This is another quality Pixar film, the different styles and concepts were trippy and amazing. I think there's a lot of nuance how the animation and music work so well together.

I was left feeling that this actually isn't for children. It will still appeal to a wide range of ages, but kids are only going to enjoy certain sillier parts and the visual appeal of the animated characters vs the story, more so than other pixar films. This isn't a film I'm going to put my kids (three and five) in front of as it's just too philosophical and psychological for that age group. This isn't meant as a criticism, just an observation.

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Old 29-12-2020, 21:19   #7
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Tried to watch this on the TV last night, but could not get into it much.
Fired up the projector and just finished watching it all.
Pretty enjoyable, but the pace was on the slower side at times, and I do agree that other than the funny cat bits, I'd also not class it as much as a kids thing.

Generally an enjoyable watch, not my favourite, but happy t have watched it.

I know I'm going to be on my own here, but there was just 1 aspect of the whole thing that spoilt it, and was jarring for me every single time it happened.

As much as I really love the guy in the IT crowd mainly plus a few other bits here and there. I really really REALLY wished they had not used him for a voice.
Not that he was bad in anyway, it's just for me his voice stands out so much, it broke my believe in what I was watching constantly.
I'd rather believe in the character I see on screen and hearing him, just spoilt if for me.

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Old 29-12-2020, 21:40   #8
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Agreed. His voice takes you out of it a bit too much.
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Old 30-12-2020, 05:39   #9
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Not seen Soul yet, but I'm having a similar issue with Amy Sedaris - I'm so used to her voice as Princess Caroline (Bojack) that it's hard to process her for real in The Mandalorian!
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Old 30-12-2020, 08:12   #10
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I am sane with Stephen merchant doing voices. It’s too strongly him.

Will try and watch this though Ss have Disney plus.


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Ok well at least it's not just me

Fully admit I have a problem with enjoying a movie when they force in? a very very well known person either with a distinctive voice or personality for some reason.
As if they really need to to make a movie better.

Myself I'd rather have people in a movie be people I have no idea who they are so I can fully believe in the character on screen.
Unless of course the movie revolves around that person being who you think they are, and that's what makes the movie..

Memorable one was cramming Dawn French in the Harry Potter film (2nd one was it?) for no reason, as it was a very "Why is Dawn French" here moment.

And funny you mentioned Steven Merchant as I had been enjoying the many many recordings on Ricky, Steve and Carl for a long long time, and they they bought out the Portal 2 game with Steve's voice-over and that was terrible as all I could see in my mind was Steve.

I get that if you have a very very poor film or game than managing to get someone very famous and well known might give you a viewing number boost in sales.
But when you have something excellent in it's own right I don't know why they feel the need to do it.
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Old 31-12-2020, 14:33   #12
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We watched this on Christmas Day and I thought it was utterly brilliant and strangely affecting. The animation style of both worlds was lovely and the hustle & bustle of Manhattan was wonderfully realised.

Funny, sad, uplifting.... The music of Jon Baptiste and Trent & Atticus suited both worlds (slightly surreal seeing that pair on a Pixar movie, keep an eye out for the hardware store selling 9” Nails).

In short, I loved it!
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Too busy, too talky and too complex to be aimed at kids. At its absolute best Pixar was once able to convey complex ideas and emotions through a facial expression, gesture or a couple of notes in the score.
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I didn't realise animation had to be judged based on it's appeal to kids?
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Too busy, too talky and too complex to be aimed at kids. At its absolute best Pixar was once able to convey complex ideas and emotions through a facial expression, gesture or a couple of notes in the score.
I concur.

Pixar have lost the spark IMO.

It feels like a film made by committee.
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Shockingly just read an article (popped up on my phone somehow) about how some people are viewing Soul as a tad racist.

The Black lead character is only on screen for a small percentage of the whole running time.
Most of the time he's a white/pale blue character.

His ghost friend is voiced by a white woman, who also voices for him, when he's back on earth in the wrong body.

People want to look for things to complain about
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I didn't realise animation had to be judged based on it's appeal to kids?
Not at all, but this didn't appeal to the kids... or me. I'm currently watching Up, Pixar used to be balm for the soul, the studio has really lost its way.

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It feels like a film made by committee.
There's a scene in the Making of Frozen 2 documentary on Disney+ (for my daughter honest) where the director holds a meeting with directors of past Disney movies and runs through the entire movie with them taking note of their reactions. I found it horrifying tbh, I'd like to see films based on the vision of a director (I know Frozen 2 isn't that film) not committee meetings and test audiences.
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^ Agree, but with modern Karen Culture I'd hate to make a popular film.
It's going to be like walking on egg-shells about you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't say this, the character isn't allowed to do that.

Honestly I wish people would "grow a pair" and fire back at these groups.
But at the moment we're still in the midst of listening to them and trying not to upset anyone.

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Personally I find using Karen as an insult a pretty offensive stereotype. Sexist and agist.


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