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Old 27-04-2016, 20:12   #1
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Alien and Aliens - which has aged the best?

I went to see an Alien / Aliens double bill at our local arts cinema yesterday, and since they are both in my top 10 favourite films it was a real treat.
While both are near perfect examples of their respective genres (I class Aliens as more action movie than straight horror) I couldn't help feeling that Alien has aged slightly better.
Maybe it's because Alien still has the power today to unnerve, shock and disgust, and feels more 'real'. Even after many viewings, LV-426 in the original still feels one of the most disturbing worlds in cinematic sci-fi for me (despite being a soundstage with a few polystyrene rocks and dry ice). I think it's the sound more than anything.
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Old 27-04-2016, 20:21   #2
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Aliens all the way for me. I agree that it's more of an action movie, but it's just so well done and stands up to repeat viewings. Alien is OK but it bored me a bit the last time that I watched it.
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Old 27-04-2016, 20:30   #3
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Yep, while I enjoyed both last night it was Aliens that still captivated me the most. Neither has aged which is amazing considering Alien is almost 40 years old.

Cameron's use of rear projection instead of blue screen really helps with the effects and realism which again helps it to still seem new. The pacing is pretty much perfect even in the special edition (strangely labelled as director's cut at cineworld).
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Alien. Without a doubt.

Loved it upon release and still do. I was just a kid when I saw it at the cinema.
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PictureHouse really confused us by putting up the BBFC card for Aliens first! Luckily they showed the actual films in the correct order
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I don't think Aliens comes out very well in this regard. While Cameron is known for pushing the technology envelope I feel because of this his films look 'of the time' - distinctly late 80s - 90s. T2 suffers the same.

Alien is pure artistry despite having crt monitors etc. It has the better art direction. The more convincing tone.

Cameron's films have an almost expensive 'TV movie' feel. This not to say they aren't well crafted.

I remember T2 knocking my socks off but now when rewatched despite technical shortcomings Terminator is the more seminal film.

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Old 27-04-2016, 20:43   #7
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Aliens, endlessly rewatchable.
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Aliens, endlessly rewatchable.
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I think Alien has definitely aged better, primarily because of the 'less is more' approach they took when making it.

That said, I'd still watch Aliens first just for the sheer thrill. Probably the most watched movie for me (must have watched it on a weekly look back in the 90's); just wish you could un-see some of the holes in the FZ that really stand out on repeat viewings (esp. Bishop's stretch through the floor ).
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I think he means FX.

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Is it ok to say the 'Directors Cut of Aliens'? Thought the extra scenes were very worthwhile. Both are excellent films though and slightly different genres.
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Alien, no question. Aliens is a bit too gung-ho for my liking, whereas the original is still terrifying and has Scott at his pinnacle.

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(esp. Bishop's stretch through the floor ).
That got fixed in the bluray
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For first viewing, I prefer Alien. Considering it's impact and design, it's still peerless. Aliens developed those designs, but the single invention was the Queen, which was good, but if they'd trusted Giger, could have been better. For re-watching value, the pace of Aliens is brilliantly timed, in fact it seems to have been a go to formula (as well as the blue saturation) for Cameron. But the quotes in Aliens just rock, mainly Hudsons. I can barely remember a line of dialogue from Alien, though I remember all the shots.
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Films age much better with real physical special effects, they've both aged really well as has a lot of the practical effects films of the era.

I assumed that was what the OP was getting at, rather than which film is best, I have to say Aliens is my fave, purely because for some reason my Dad let me watch it when I was quite little.
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Forgot to add that another reason why Aliens is so special to me is that it was one of a run of superb films that I watched in the cinema, pre-multiplex days, all within a 2 year period.

In the post Star Wars/Indiana Jones period, these films, whilst unrelated, represented a mini golden age of cinema (The Goonies - Back To The Future - Stand By Me - Aliens - Platoon - Ferris Bueller's Day Off).
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Yes pretty much. I actually prefer Aliens over the first (although not by much), it's just that Alien seems to have more of a 'timeless' quality about it if that makes any sense.

In any case, both films are completely awesome!
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Neither of them have aged at all, in my eyes.

Both of Cameron's Terminator films have aged considerably, although that's kind of their appeal, but there's a real timelessness to the first two Alien movies.

I bet twenty years from now, Prometheus will feel more aged than the original Alien film.
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Alien is far the best of the two for me,more claustrophobic etc etc than Aliens imo,the effects still stand up even now considering what they had to work with ie old PC monitors etc.

Even though I like Aliens it reminds me more of Platoon in space.

Both films have to be seen on the big screen and not on tv screens.

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