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Old 30-11-2011, 22:34   #161
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As much as it's the poor relation in Europe, I'm very disappointed that we've gone out (I don't care about long shots in the last round!). A really good opportunity to keep in European competition but obviously the manager doesn't think so.

Mind you, with a better performance tonight, all the resting and playing the kids in earlier games wouldn't have mattered. We should've won with the team on paper - just two very sloppy goals (their second was a good goal on their part though) and uphill from there.

Surprised to see Modric start but he was awesome in an otherwise poor performance. For all that possession in the second half, their keeper didn't have to do too much.

A real missed opportunity IMO.
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I was sat in the North stand behind the goal so couldnt really see their goals. Just watched them online and the impossible has been confirmed - Corluka has actually lost half a yard!!!
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I swear, half the referees working today don't actually know the rules of the game!

Sure, it would have been harsh but the defender was still in play.
Would this be the goal that was disallowed because of the Defoe foul on a player which led to that player lying in an offside position ?

Mind you, it was the same ref who had sent a PAOK player offer for having the cheek to chest a ball off the line ....
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I know I keep banging on about it but last night again showed the problem with not having a reserve side. You simply can't expect fringe players & those returning from injury to step straight into an important (according to 'Arry) fixture & play at the top of their game. The entire back four were a shambles in the first half.

If you look at other sides who successfully put out second string sides in lesser competitions it's because they are used to playing regularly with each other in the reserve league. Ours have only had hastily arranged, meaningless practice matches at best which are no substitute for a competitive game.

Next time I see Corluka "play" (hopefully not for us) I fully expect to see him stood on a Segway!
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Would this be the goal that was disallowed because of the Defoe foul on a player which led to that player lying in an offside position ?
The problem I have with this, in common with the majority of your posts, is that it makes no sense whatsoever.
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I have to say everytime I see Bassong play his positioning and touch are awful. How on earth did we give Newcastle 8m for him. Pienaar was saying how he desperately wanted a chance to show what he could do. Dont know why we took him even on a free as we have much better players that cant get a game.
Dont mind being out of the Europa league though. Its all about the premier league this year for us. If we can get back in the top 4 and champs league then that is a massive achievement.
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As I said, I enjoy seeing the youngsters/reserves and would prefer we could see them a few more times in this competition. I think we can safely say that Livermore and Kane are unlikely to make it in the EPL, Bassong has regressed, Corluka is finished and Pienaar is one of the most pointless signings ever (appreciate he has been injured.)

What we learn is that we need to say goodbye to Bassong, Corlukaand Gallas (the latter probably at the end of the season) and sign a genuinely top class centre back to challenge Dawson and Kaboul for a place when King is out.

Modric, Lennon and Defoe all looked good which is to be expected really. Hope Defoe starts and VDV on the bench on sat.
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The problem I have with this, in common with the majority of your posts, is that it makes no sense whatsoever.
The sentance didn't come out right (reading it back) but basically, the goal was disallowed cos Defoe committed a foul. Had nothing to do with whether Defoe was offside or not.

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The sentance didn't come out right (reading it back) but basically, the goal was disallowed cos Defoe committed a foul. Had nothing to do with whether Defoe was offside or not.


Defoe may well have commited a foul (which the ref never blew for) only when he got the ball back, clearly onside because of the guy lying injured and subsequently scored, did the ref just decide to chalk the goal off, making it up as he went along.

If the ref can decide a foul was comitted, after having ignored it in earlier phases of open play, how long is the ref allowed to "rewind" the game for ? the decision from start to finish was absolutely comical.
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Defoe may well have commited a foul (which the ref never blew for) only when he got the ball back, clearly onside because of the guy lying injured and subsequently scored, did the ref just decide to chalk the goal off, making it up as he went along.

If the ref can decide a foul was comitted, after having ignored it in earlier phases of open play, how long is the ref allowed to "rewind" the game for ? the decision from start to finish was absolutely comical.
This!

Honestly, for anyone who thinks he eventually got it right (which in all fairness would have been the correct decision had he actually blown for it), what was he doing? Playing advantage? Maybe he thought if someone had a shot it was better for the player to be lying in front of goal, as they were under so much pressure he might have stopped it with his body?

Seriously, he didn't blow for it so it shouldn't have ben brought back a couple of minutes later. Absolutely farcical.
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Well, in fairness, Ch5 did show footage of the '5th' official with his magic wand shouting something quite keenly at the ref, before Defoe put the ball in the net. I can only assume it was something to try and draw the ref's attention to Defoe's foul.

So, possibly, someone saw it but perhaps the communication between 5th official and ref didn't quite work. Those wands are basically linesmens flags without the flag aren't they? ie: they have a button to press to get the refs attention (who has a little vibration unit on him)?

Was quite farcical, even if they got it right in the end. I am fairly sure that the ref only took action as it resulted in a goal though. Nothing would've happened had Defoe skewed it wide.
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Defoe may well have commited a foul (which the ref never blew for) only when he got the ball back, clearly onside because of the guy lying injured and subsequently scored, did the ref just decide to chalk the goal off, making it up as he went along.

If the ref can decide a foul was comitted, after having ignored it in earlier phases of open play, how long is the ref allowed to "rewind" the game for ? the decision from start to finish was absolutely comical.
As mjb1975 says the ref didn't spot the foul - it was one of the other officials who spotted it and clearly indicated that a foul had taken place at the time it happened.
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We're 1-0 up, and we're caining 10 man Bolton but we must have missed about 7 or 8 good chances. Make than 9.....
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We're 1-0 up, and we're caining 10 man Bolton but we must have missed about 7 or 8 good chances. Make than 9.....
Quite absurd that it's only 1-0 still at HT. Could have been a rugby score. Don't feel overly nervous at the moment but it just takes one set piece...

Need to put this to bed quickly in the second half!
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People, you need to see the highlights, I'm not exaggerating when I say there's probably been about 10 misses, I actually can't count them all. Really should be 6-0 up, even 3-0 would be criminal. The worst thing is Bales goal was the hardest chance of them all.
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Defoe makes a great block on the line to prevent a certain goal, sadly it was the Bolton goal.

As I wrote that Lennon just makes it 2-0. Thank god for that
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Finished 3-0 (Defoe got the third). Lovely stuff - up to 2nd (at least for a while, if United get points in the late game).

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Another good performance by the sounds of it, I was out an about so unfortunately could only keep up via a shoddy 2G connection on the phone to BBC Sport! Certainly no nerve jangler like the West Brom or Fulham matches.

The next 3 league matches could be dangerous - away to Stoke who are likely to make an aerial assault on us, Sunderland at home who will likely have a new manager effect boost then Chelsea at home who you can't really predict at the moment. Either way we are looking good at the moment so shouldn't really have to fear anyone but of course that isn't the Spurs way!
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Away to Stoke is always tough. Sunderland at home I think should be okay. O'Neill is a good manager but I'm not sure what he'll be able to do with that team without buying in Jan. He'll probably still be looking at what needs work. We've beaten better Chelsea teams recently so I'm quietly confident.
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The dubious sending off ended the contest but it just feels like the decisions that used to go against us are going for us. I was there today and we should easily have put 6+ past them. Good to see Lennon having a good game, Walker has the opposition defence permanently on the back foot and BAE is looking very comfortable on the ball (still had his token f up moment)

Not sure why rafa was introduced, didn't look fit at all.
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