Triangle

[Guest 67090]

Originally Posted by JimDriver2

I kind of agree RomerojpgX, it's certainly a good explanation in the least, however:

How come the Jess that survives the car crash is basically fine? Her son is killed and the car is a mess. All the people running to the crash don't seem to notice her, or the 'taxi driver' who takes her to the boat.

My theory is that the Jess who survives the crash is kind of 'saved' from it. It's the end of the loop. The whole loop was her trying to save her son, she failed. The Taxi driver then takes her to the dock and kind of 'blanks' her so she's so altered and has forgotten the prior loop. It then just starts all over.

Also I don't think she ever saves her son. It's not purgatory, it's hell and it's eternal. That's set up by the name of the boat and the whole Greek (?) legend story of the guy rolling the stone up the hill for ever. She's in hell for being a terrible mother.

Thats the way I see it.

The name of the boat and what it means sort of tells you what is going on. The taxi driver at the end as well is just odd, doesn't seem at all normal. Perhaps he is the guy who takes souls to hell.

[goonerforever]

Cheers guys. Personally I don't see how

she can be alive after that crash without a scratch on her, but I get that the body covered up is the 'evil' Jess.

Let's hope the director's commentary will solve it once and for all for definite!

[RomerojpgX]

Originally Posted by goonerforever

Let's hope the director's commentary will solve it once and for all for definite!

Hey it may well be better letting us think what we want rather than letting it all out of the bad from the Director some films you can imagine what you want and still enjoy them.

Mind you over explaining things like Donnie Darko gets a bit odd as when the director explained that, the film went mental and off the scale of silly alternate realaties and multi dimentional charecters forcing their way into other relms to save people.

Mind you he does also say whatever you think works also

[cliff homewood]

I thought it was a rip off of Time Crimes, anyone else here seen that? Obviously you could say its a 'homage', I thought timecrimes was better though.

[RomerojpgX]

From what I read the script for Triangle was around many years before Timecrimes was even a thought so I doubt it was a blatant copy.

[cliff homewood]

Yeah have now read up on it and the director said he had the story 4 years before (Timecrimes came out a year ago) at frightfest or some festival where his was the big film this year and timecrimes the year before.

[Andy]

Watched this last night... one of the best films I've seen all year... seriously... I thought it was THAT good.

[Space Duck]

Originally Posted by Andy

Watched this last night... one of the best films I've seen all year... seriously... I thought it was THAT good.

Was it the hot pants that made this awesome or the story?

[Andy]

Haha... the story of course

[rustybin]

Watched this this afternoon and it's a cracking little movie. Keeps you guessing until the end with plenty to think about, and George is excellent. Well worth watching - 7.5/10.

It's one of those films (like Usual Suspects / Fight Club) which would really benefit from a second viewing.

[Guest 23929]

Originally Posted by Jez

Saw this last night and thought it was a great little film, you know whats coming but still has a few interesting aspects..

The whole thing based on her feeling guilty for being a terrible mum and wanting to make a mends.

However, one bit doesn't make sense...

The films time line when she first arrives on the boat and she is on her own, she must know what is going to happen as its not the first time, so no need to look confused? We now know why she is a little spaced out but not to the point of not remembering whats going on.

I can only assume its there to actually have a film narrative, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to the audience if she already knew what was going to happen and didn't figure it out..

Great top and shorts combo also!

at some point, she must have come onto the boat at some point for the first time. That's what we see the first time she goes onto the boat in the film.

So at some point from the beginning of the film to the first time she goes onto the boat we're into a flashback which isnt signposted for obvious reasons - probably about the time she dreams about waking up on the beach. Thus, when the film finishes, and we're back at the 'start' its going to progress differently this time around but we don't see her arrive on the big spooky boat.

I did notice when watching the first time that when they arrive on the boat, the editing is quite odd so when its all been revealed you're never quite sure from who's perspective you've been watching. We're already in a loop the first time we watch as we hear the radio message she sent out and, of course, the doorbell. Um..I dunno really...

I thought something slightly more could have been made of the girl who got swept overboard...

And more made of the little boat in the pool at the start she capsised and then, didnt she say something about all the boats being the right way up to her son when trying to calm him down?

Doest that make sense? Need to see it again. Will wait for the bluray now, as I think it'll look great. I loved the sets.

[bruce-leroy]

I didn't think it was that great to be honest, although after reading this thread, I may revisit it at some point in the future. I felt a bit empty and cheated after it ended, although certain relevations were interesting. Melissa looks great though.

[Jez]

Think its a great little film.

Will defiantly be picking it up when it goes down in price, will be in the 2 for 25 or something soon at HMV i'd imagine.

Am hoping for an interesting commentary.

[Guest 50304]

Originally Posted by Andy

Watched this last night... one of the best films I've seen all year... seriously... I thought it was THAT good.

ditto, i though this film was also one of the best.

also better, by the fact i didn't now what was going to happen, unlike most "blockbusters" these days (ie. spoilt by trailers, reviews etc)

[Guest 3003]

I rented this a few weeks ago and rather enjoyed.

One thing annoyed me a little though, after I'd watched the (very good) "Making of". They built a large section of the ship on a long, thin strip of land which sticks out into the sea for extra verismilitude.

However, what's the point if you then plaster so much CGI over the top of it in post production that it doesn't look as though you've stepped outside a soundstage?!

[RomerojpgX]

Originally Posted by Dene

One thing annoyed me a little though, after I'd watched the (very good) "Making of". They built a large section of the ship on a long, thin strip of land which sticks out into the sea for extra verismilitude.

That set was so big it was on Google earth for a while

[Guest 56823]

Watched this tonight and rather enjoyed it. Christopher Smith is becoming a more accomplished director with every film he makes. I found Creep rather ropey, Severance was an improvement but this was very well made.

The similarities to Trimecrimes are pretty odd, though like others I believe that this is a coincidence as in the end it's about something else entirely. I much preferred this to Timecrimes, which got rather tiresome after the time machine is revealed. This film keeps you guessing till the end.

The other film apart from Timecrimes this reminded my of is The Machinist

In both films the lead experiences moments of deja vu and suffers some sort punishment in relation to a car accident where a child gets killed.

As others have pointed out, it's fairly clear that this is based on the Sisyphus myth. The ship is called the Aeolus. Aeolus was the father of Sisyphus whose punishment was to repeat the same cumbersome task over and over.

I don't believe that the car accident is beginning or the end of the cycle or that an evil version of Jess got killed. What we see is merely a small section of a never ending loop that began some time before. She may or may not be dead, but she does undergo some sort of supernatural punishment in a type of purgatory, possibly for being a bad mother. She mentions that her autistic son need for things to stay the same and her punishment is for things always to stay the same. When the loop starts over, she forgets that everything keeps repeating itself. When she throws the dead seagull from the cliff, we see many seagulls there, so the accident has been repeating several times already.

The cab driver who picks her up after the accident and seems unconcerned by the death of her child, knows her already. He is the only one aware of the time loop. He could be Charon, the ferryman of the dead in Greek mythology. If you don't pay Charon, you have to wander the shore on the other side of Hades for eternity and you never get to the afterlife. Jess promises to pay the cab driver when she gets to the harbour and then she never comes back and so the loop begins again. Maybe the way to break the cycle would be for her to pay the ferryman/cab driver.

[LordoftheDance]

Nice explanation there Todd. That certainly makes sense.

My partner and I just watched it now, and I was really enjoying it up until the last 10 minutes or so up until the point where

the car crashes into the lorry.

I thought it just got way too confusing after that. A point my girlfriend so eloquently put was,

"what was the point of that film? She just keeps doing the same things over and over."

I tend to side with her. There's no sense of closure like there was with

The Machinist

, which this film also reminded me of.

All the stuff on the boat was very clever though - really enjoyed it.

[JimDriver2]

Read some of the earlier spoilers people have posted. Once you think about it you'll see it's fairly obvious what it's getting at and there's a pretty definite sense of closure.

[dunkrag]

Just watched this. Bluray looks fantastic, although on the downside it does show up quite a bit of dodgy CGI.

Melissa is fantastic - I almost want to watch season 4 of Alias again now.

I thought the first 30 mins was slow and it wasn't really grabbing me, but now - knowing what happens, think I will need to re-watch.

Cracking little thriller though.