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Old 31-07-2009, 16:02   #1161
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One could easily say that Liverpool are in a vulnerable position when it comes to losing their CL place, especially if the lose Xabi Alonso, there is also the need for all the new Citeh stars to gel into a cohesive team, how is Sparky going to accommodate all those superstar strikers (and egos that go with them), add to the fact that a mega rich new chairman could also be very trigger happy (see Ranieri when Abramovich came in), I think it will take 2-3 seasons before Citeh can be true contenders, by then who knows what could have happened to Arsenal, Wengers faith in the youth might have come good.

Football is full of uncertainties.
I completely agree with all you say here and that it's all uncertain, but you're missing the point. The point is that if Arsenal get shunted out of the top 4 by Citeh (lol) after selling them Adebayor and Toure, it's going to look like an extremely foolish piece of business by Arsenal. If Liverpool get shunted (which I doubt) at least they won't be kicking themselves for selling Alonso to Citeh.
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Old 31-07-2009, 16:05   #1162
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Yeah this season should hopefully be more interesting, and surely has to be, at least a bit more entertaining than last season's dullfest.

The top 4 all seem weaker, a fifth has surely made the biggest leap towards them than any other club has done and, for me, the level of the Premiership is dropping and will continue to do so so may start to even the playing field out even more.
I thought last season was quite interesting as the top 3 positions were unclear until quite late in the season relative to past seasons. Apart from that though I agree with all you've said here (though maybe Chelsea haven't weakened) and I can't wait for the next season to begin.
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Old 31-07-2009, 16:59   #1163
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Arsenal TV gone then

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ing-arsenal-tv

The club's crumbling, crumb-a-ling I tell you....
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I completely agree with all you say here and that it's all uncertain, but you're missing the point. The point is that if Arsenal get shunted out of the top 4 by Citeh (lol) after selling them Adebayor and Toure, it's going to look like an extremely foolish piece of business by Arsenal. If Liverpool get shunted (which I doubt) at least they won't be kicking themselves for selling Alonso to Citeh.
That's a lot of assumptions to make. I don't see City breaking in to the top this season, pushing them maybe. Even if they did break in to the top 4 why Arsenal, Liverpool don't have much cover for Torres should he get injured plus the possible loss of Alonso, Utd have sold two attacking players without really replacing them. Chelsea potentially have the strongest team but they also have a new managr and you never know how that's going to turn out.

Should both the players have complete blinders this season there is no guarantee they would have if they were still at Arsenal as both were looking to move away. There is know doubt that when Ade. is motivated he is a great striker, when he isn't he's not and he wasn't particularly motivated last season. Plus not losing several key players for the African Nations Cup won't harm Arsenal now, but could Man City.

They say you shouldn't sell your good players to your rivals in case it makes them stronger could be Wenger doesn't consider Man City a serious rival yet.
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Huh, so Vieira coming back is a real possibility! Actually a whole load of new news stories on Arse.com



Yeouch, you can hear something crack - it was our Abou then after all but not the rough tackle it was being reported as. Nasri a little too eagre imo.

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That's a lot of assumptions to make.
Which is why I sayed 'if'.

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I don't see City breaking in to the top this season, pushing them maybe. Even if they did break in to the top 4 why Arsenal, Liverpool don't have much cover for Torres should he get injured plus the possible loss of Alonso, Utd have sold two attacking players without really replacing them. Chelsea potentially have the strongest team but they also have a new managr and you never know how that's going to turn out.
You maybe right, you maybe wrong. But I do agree that Chelsea are the team that haven't been weakened and are probably the favourites right now.
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Your tone is unfortunate as the original poster is only posting what a lot of people are thinking. What's most concerning probably is who your selling to. So lighten up eh!
To be fair, he pops in on the wind-up. It's pretty obvious from the post.

You, on the other hand, pop in for a discussion

Would certainly be good to see Viera back for a season. Even if he wasn't playing every match, the amount the other youngsters in central midefield would learn in a year would be massive. Maybe he'd stay on and help Wenger coach? Also, him/Petit fitted in very nicely in the centre back position when the usual suspects were out, so maybe he can provide cover there, too (not that we seem to need it given the numbers we have in that position).

Re city, yes selling to them is a risk. If taking £40m from them for a couple of players is a risk, then surely Utd not spending £25m on Tevez is also a risk. I think that, given the number of new players, it'll take a while for the team to 'gel'. If they then lose Ade & Toure to the cup of nations for a few weeks, that'll unsettle things somewhat (hopefully ).

One of our biggest problems over the last few years is how many players we've lost to the cup of nations every couple of years. Might not be such a problem elsewhere, but we have less strength in depth than some others and have for the past few seasons had far more in the way of long-term injury problems. Given this, I can see why Wenger might say it's like having a new player. With Dudu & Rosicky out for much of last season, and us still finishing 4th, if we kept the same squad it would be stronger. We've sold two and bought one. So it still should be stronger. Buying more will just strengthen it further.
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Actually a whole load of new news stories on Arse.com
Hadn't realised your little gypsy boy was at the emirates this weekend. wish he'd never left. Think he does as well, since he says "I thought it would be better for my career"
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Your tone is unfortunate as the original poster is only posting what a lot of people are thinking. What's most concerning probably is who your selling to. So lighten up eh!


the term "get a rise" in defo in vogue with some these lot at the mo.

gotta wonder how some of em survive in the real world if a sentence gets them "risen" so easily.
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Some could easily ask if you such a knob in the real world how come you don't get lamped 5 times a day, so I assume its because people are more likely to be a bit more avant-garde on t'internet
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Punched, smacked, *******
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Mmebership pack arrived today...wish they had kept the large box format!

The book is nice though!
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Sign of the cash crisis at the Emirates though, its paperback not hardback like last year!
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His finish for the second goal was outrageous. Although the game did show that we still haven't solved the 'close out the game' issue that we need to fix in order to grind out wins when we're not playing well
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Wilshere was excellent today, I can see him getting a bit more action in the first team this season.

Arshavin's second goal was pretty amazing.
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