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Old 12-12-2010, 17:52   #3201
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Old 12-12-2010, 17:53   #3202
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Old 12-12-2010, 17:55   #3203
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The ref has been disgracefull & did his best to hand it to chelsea. How many Reds & yellows chelsea players should have I lost count of.
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Go mes, just go ..........

Bale had a fairly poor game, at least by his recent raised expectations.

Modric our best player by a mile.

We weren't really in it after Defoe went off.

Considering Chelseas form and performance, 2 points dropped really.

Need VdV back soon and to make a decision on King and Woodgate once and for all.

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Modric and Palacios were outstanding today but we really lost momentum when Crouch came on for Defoe as he was causing them problems. Still, it's hard to account for suicidal defending and beyond inept goalkeeping at times.
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I suppose you could say that the Drogba handball cancelled out Defoe being offside when passing to Pav' for our goal.

Gomes on the other hand, has had too many chances for me and amazingly, was way below what I would score even BAE on todays performance.
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Disappointed with that result but that's the performance of the season from us. Bale didn't play that well to be honest, he stopped his runs at times when he could have caused them real problems. If he'd played well we'd have won 3-1.

Couldn't hear the commentary that well but I was convinced there were a few possible red cards Chelsea were lucky to avoid, then again they were unlucky at other times and so were we. I think two of their players collided in the first half and BAE ended up with a yellow

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I suppose you could say that the Drogba handball cancelled out Defoe being offside when passing to Pav' for our goal.
If he was it was a whisker and we gained no advantage from it anyway. Very disappointed at the Drogba goal, why wasn't anyone shielding him? Bassong should have been much closer and would have cleared it off the line. Gomes was far too low and while he couldn't do anything about the back spin, if he stood up it would have span into him

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Gomes on the other hand, has had too many chances for me and amazingly, was way below what I would score even BAE on todays performance.
You're having a laugh, right? Benny was probably MOTM today, he was very very solid and composed, even when he got beaten he made up for it.

Gomes was excellent today, made some fantastic stops and finally saved a penalty. Yes he wasn't up to his best for the goal but it wasn't solely his fault. Don't blame him for the penalty, it was 50:50 and both players went into each other. Very harsh and certainly not a yellow!

Was Kaboul injured? He's my first choice RB, maybe he should at least come on when we've got the lead. God knows why Redknapp bought Crouch on, I'm not Defoes biggest fan but he's miles better than Crouch!

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Camaj,

No, what I meant to say was I would score Gomes worse today than I normally score BAE, though in the main, BAE had one of his better games today.

I thought Gomes decision making and general goalkeeping was appalling, he seems to be a good shot stopper at times, just not a very "thinking" kind of a 'keeper.

As for Motm, no question that was Modric for me.

Defoe while he was on, even if he wasn't creating chances, drags opposing players away, thus creating plenty of space for others to use.

Crouch was simply a waste of a fresh pair of legs today.

Keane on the other hand, really looked like he wanted to get in the game and seemed to run his arse off, though by then we had given up so much possession we weren't holding the ball for very long or creating much other than a breakaway opportunity.

If it weren't for Huttons heavy touches we may have had one or two decent chances for the 3 points.

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No, what I meant to say was I would score Gomes worse today than I normally score BAE, though in the main, BAE had one of his better games today.

I thought Gomes decision making and general goalkeeping was appalling, he seems to be a good shot stopper at times, just not a very "thinking" kind of a 'keeper.
That's still pretty harsh for a player that kept us in the game. I don't know what decisions you could question other than him going for the ball that lead to the penalty. I think he had to come but probably misjudged it. Honestly he only made one real mistake today but he did 6 or 7 saves that could have won us the game. I'd give him a 7 today, 8 if he'd kept a clean sheet.

Having Dawson back clearly has had a big impact, we're finally wining headers in our own box, I'd almost forgot that was possible
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LOL are you serious? Completely hypothetical but if we would have any other keeper we may have won that match, all of the saves were easy even the one for the goal and while he did well for the penalty save it was all of his own making in the first place.
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Any other keeper? Cudicinni would have let in 2 or 3! Yes he dived a bit early for the goal and he was a bit unfortunate with the spin but he made some very good saves, especially the one that came off Palacios head
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don't remember Gomes making more than 2 other saves-the palacios one yes, plus a long range standard save.

Very disappointed today as Chelsea were very poor, they weren't really pressurising us until they scored-they'd have had to pile forward more giving us more chance of scoring on the break

BAE was very good today, Hutton was embarassing and you could see Lennon(who did ok against the best left back in the country) being completely handicapped by him. Dawson did great apart from the goal, Palacios poor again and Sandro looks even worse, though I dont want to judge him yet

Feels like a loss to me which I know is a sign of how well we are doing, cannot see us catching the top 4 now.

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Palacios poor again and Sandro looks even worse, though I dont want to judge him yet

Feels like a loss to me which I know is a sign of how well we are doing, cannot see us catching the top 4 now.
Palacios didn't put a foot wrong and was causing them big problems in the middle.

I know what you mean when you say it feels like a loss, we won this game last season and we needed to win again to stay on track. However we're certainly in with a shot of the top 4 especially if we play like this from now on, not to mention King and VDV coming back from injury and Kaboul (hopefully) playing at RB
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Just back from the Game. Palacios was utter ****. End of.
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Old 13-12-2010, 02:37   #3215
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Just back from the Game. Palacios was utter ****. End of.
Whether you were at the game or not is irrelevant tbh, Palacios had a decent game today.

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Old 13-12-2010, 07:53   #3216
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Funny how perceptions of the same game can vary so dramatically.

Hutton embarrassing? Not that I saw.

Lennon handicapped? Yes, but only by his own limitations.

Gomes crap? Well he made a mistake or two. It's just that goalkeepers don't get away with them.

Palacious poor? I'd have to agree but he wasn't as bad as usual.

Sandro no better? He was only on the pitch for 5 minutes!

Etc., etc.

Anyway, for me the biggest problem once again was giving the ball away from midfield. Something Palacious, Lennon & Modric have been guilty of far too much this year. Come January we need a reliable DM who can both tackle & pass (preferably to someone wearing the same colour shirt). I wasn't keen when we were linked to him before but I'm wondering if Scott Parker is that man?

I think we also need a striker who can control the ball, hold it up & hit the target more than once a game. Something Pavlyochenko & Crouch both seem to be struggling with. I doubt we have the funds for a real big name though so how about (don't laugh) Kevin Davies? Or Emile Heskey (but with stabilisers fitted.

Calm down - I'm not serious about Heskey...
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I'd agree with the first half of your post RBZ5416, I have to say that without VDV, Jenas and Hudd we still put up a terrific fight - Modric gets crowded out with limited options around him and Defoe only really thrives on the balls which are intricately threaded through, he just gets mugged with his back to goal. I wonder why Chelsea allowed the game to be played so openly? So unlike them
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I think we also need a striker who can control the ball, hold it up & hit the target more than once a game. Something Pavlyochenko & Crouch both seem to be struggling with. I doubt we have the funds for a real big name though so how about (don't laugh) Kevin Davies? Or Emile Heskey (but with stabilisers fitted.

Calm down - I'm not serious about Heskey...
there's another consistently goalscoring, fast, hard working striker who likes to play on the last man and is on the fringes of the England team...what was his name?!

Realistically, we are a good,not great team. Anyone with VDV, Bale and Modric in the same side is always going to cause people problems and add Lennon and Defoe we're clearly good to watch.

I have nothing against the likes of Palacios, BAE, Pav etc and they're far better than the people I used to watch as a regular matchgoer in the 90s, but these are not 'top 4' players. We simply don't have enough top class players compared to the other challengers(though we do have more strength depth in terms of above average ones)
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It's not unlike us at all. Certainly not under Carlo anyway.
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