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Old 03-12-2005, 20:27   #261
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Do you know, in all honesty, that plot point never occurred to me until you mentioned it - there are extinct animals galore, but Denham decides to bring back an oversized ape!?!
Denham was a filmmaker, not a scientist and he wanted to exploit the "Beauty and the Beast" angle. I guess using the poor love sick ape's vulnerability, as Denham himself said "We have something he wants", is a better idea than chasing a T-rex around with a big butterfly net or something. Anyway, on a island full of prehistoric monsters, Kong is the king of the jungle, he's truly the Eighth Wonder of the World, so there! Don't diss the big fella.

In the original film it's easy to see why the natives treated Kong like a God. I still get tingles down my spine the first time we catch a glimpse of him. The stop-motion and rear projection FX may seem a little prehistoric these days, but from what I've seen of Jackson's film, with it's admittedly very impressive CGI dinos running amok, it's kinda hard to see what's so special about a great big ape. There's a charm and something really quite magical about the old-skool Kong.

I'm still waiting for the Kong Collection to ship from loaded247.com.

I've had it on order since the 18th Nov and if it doesn't ship soon I think a Kong stylie rampage could be on the cards. Nah, sod that, I'll just mutter obscenities under my breath instead. That'll show 'em.
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Old 03-12-2005, 20:35   #262
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I had the pleasure of seeing this theatrically once (as I've banged on about before) and I can honestly say I was more excited about seeing Kong on the big screen than I have been any number of modern spectaculars. I fair embarrassed myself in the discussion afterwards when we were supposed to be dissecting genre, semiotics and such and I was gushing about how exciting it was.

Story of my academic life, sadly.
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:42   #263
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wasn't being too serious about the dino quote. Apparently, it was a joke going around Weta, who are doing the cgi for Jackson's new Kong. After all, who would be stupid enough to transport a dinosaur into a city? (hides from Jurassic Park fanboys).

I'm sure somewhere in this thread it was mentioned that the original and best King Kong was getting a theatrical release with the restored print? Any news on this?
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Old 04-12-2005, 13:06   #264
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The original Kong is having a few showings at the NFT this December as part of the Merian C Cooper season, along with previews of the Jackson effort.

Here's some more info from the BFI website.

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Are any words needed to introduce this most enduring of Hollywood fables? The idea of a giant gorilla unleashed on civilisation had been brewing in Cooper's mind for years. At RKO he saw Willis O'Brien's animation tests for Creation and recognised the means of bringing his story to life. Writer Ruth Rose (Mrs Schoedsack) penned a script that wrote the personalities of C&S into their own fantasy, the RKO effects department achieved miracles, and the rest is history. (Showing with a five-minute fragment of Creation - all that survives of the abandoned production).
NFT1 8.45PM Wed 7 Dec
NFT1 3.30PM Sat 10 Dec
NFT2 8.40PM Wed 14 Dec
NFT2 8.50PM Thu 15 Dec


Also showing during the Merian C Cooper Season are

Becky Sharp + La Cucuracha

The first short from Merian C Cooper's Pioneer Pictures La Cucuracha showed how brilliant the colours could be. Becky Sharp, revealed the potential of the process, being a fine adaptation of Thackeray's 'Vanity Fair'.

NFT2 6.20PM Thu 22 Dec
NFT3 8.30PM Wed 28 Dec

Chang

This story of a family's struggle against the jungle, was shot at great risk - with tigers leaping at the camera. Merian C Cooper's and Ernest B Schoedsack's second feature was enormously successful, nominated for one of the first Academy Awards.

NFT2 8.40PM Fri 9 Dec
NFT3 6.15PM Mon 19 Dec

Flying Down to Rio

Merian C Cooper gave Fred Astaire his break in pictures when other studios failed to see his potential.

NFT2 6.20PM Tue 20 Dec
NFT2 8.45PM Wed 21 Dec

Fort Apache

Merian C Cooper joined with John Ford in the 30s and 40s to produce some of Ford's most famous films. Fort Apache inaugurated the celebrated 'cavalry trilogy', all to star John Wayne.

NFT2 8.30PM Thu 22 Dec
NFT2 6.10PM Wed 28 Dec

The Four Feathers + The Most Dangerous Game

Thrilling Africa shot footage and Fay Wray + The Most Dangerous Game was made simultaneously with Kong and is a classic 30s adventure yarn.

NFT1 5.45PM Sat 10 Dec
NFT3 8.00PM Tue 20 Dec

I'm King Kong! - The Exploits of Merian C Cooper + Grass: A Nation's Battle for Life

This brand new documentary covers Cooper's breathless life with a pace to match. From his life-or-death struggles as a WW1 aviator through to the flying sequences that helped launch Cinerama in the 50s, it ties together his three great passions: cinema, flying and his country.

NFT1 6.10PM Wed 7 Dec

The Last Days of Pompeii

An entertaining epic in the DeMille mould from inspirational Hollywood film-makers Merian C Cooper and Ernest B Schoedsack.

NFT3 6.10PM Wed 21 Dec
NFT3 8.40PM Fri 23 Dec

Little Women

Merian C Cooper fought hard for the film to be made from the book rather than the stage adaptation. His tenacity paid off. This all but perfect version staring Katharine Hepburn, won Oscar nominations for Best Picture and Best Director.

NFT2 8.45PM Sun 11 Dec
NFT1 6.10PM Mon 12 Dec

The Lost Squadron + Son of Kong

Merian C Cooper's passion is clearly reflected in The Lost Squadron tale of aerial drama + Son of Kong is an enjoyable sequal to King Kong with expert animation that still thrills. From the creators of the original Kong Merian C Cooper and Ernest B Schoedsack.

NFT2 6.00PM Thu 15 Dec
NFT2 8.10PM Mon 19 Dec

Mighty Joe Young

Merian C Cooper visits familiar territory one last time with this light-hearted reworking of the Kong idea.

NFT2 4.00PM Sun 11 Dec
NFT1 4.10PM Tue 27 Dec

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I'd kill to see a good print of "Fort Apache" on the big screen.
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Thanks for the info, TS. Wish I was down in London for the next couple of weeks; I'd love to see a bunch of those in the cinema, particularly The Most Dangerous Game.
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I watched the "Making Of" documentary last night and highly commend it, despite the rather lavish length being mainly a thinly-veiled promo for the Jackson version, favorably reviewed recently in the Telegraph. The real eye-popper in this epic doco was the Spider Pit sequence, made by Jackson's team using the technical standards and procedures of 1932, then editing it into the finished film. I thought this was a quite astonishing exercise (God know what it must have cost) and probably unique in the annals of movie history.
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The real eye-popper in this epic doco was the Spider Pit sequence, made by Jackson's team using the technical standards and procedures of 1932, then editing it into the finished film. I thought this was a quite astonishing exercise (God know what it must have cost) and probably unique in the annals of movie history.
Worked mostly for me too, and sorted out just why they don't get off that damned tree trunk. The only thing that didn't work, I think, was any shot of the live actors, but then again, Jackson did say it was only a bit of (expensive) fun, until, sometime, someday, the real sequence turns up.

Cooper was right though, don't you think? It would kinda throw the brakes on the story.
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Absolutely. Cut to the chase, cut to the bone, cut to the ape. Actually, I think most films work best in their original forms - first instincts are often the best ones - though recently I thought Gladiator greatly benefitted from the additional footage.
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I'd kill to see a good print of "Fort Apache" on the big screen.
BTW the brief clip they show of Fort Apache on the 'I'm King Kong' doco is, a little digital clean-up aside, breathtakingly sharp, clear with perfect contrast. Bodes well for next year.
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sigh - NFT a bit far, was hoping for a local UGC or even the Cornerhouse Manchester.
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sigh - NFT a bit far, was hoping for a local UGC or even the Cornerhouse Manchester.
With any luck, some of these prints will go on tour, I think quite a few BFI seasons do. We got a couple of the Tarkovsky films up here, and just had Black Narcissus, which played over the summer in London.
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could anyone who's bought the tin version please confirm the height of the tin (if it's about the same as the R1 disney treasures my shelves will accomodate ok otherwise may have to go for the standard 2 disc)
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The tin measures 22cms x 17cms x 3.5cms.
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I'd kill to see a good print of "Fort Apache" on the big screen.
Kill what? Please be more specific.
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It's a figure of speech Wendell, as you very well know you naughty old tease.
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sigh - NFT a bit far, was hoping for a local UGC or even the Cornerhouse Manchester.
Guess who's going to London this weekend.......
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The tin measures 22cms x 17cms x 3.5cms.
Many thanks John, thats a bit bigger than the disney treasures so I face the choice of re-jigging my whole shelving system or opting for the standard 2 disc...
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Does anyone know if there's a definitive release of Steiner's King Kong score available? After seeing the film again I've been looking around for the OST but there seem to be a bunch of discs, by different orchestras, etc. Don't really know which way to turn.
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Isn't the release done by Rhino the definitive OST. It even includes snippets of dialogue.
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