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Old 01-12-2005, 12:38   #241
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Those Space 1999 fans... they're real bad asses.
Actually it was a Star Trek fan having a go at the reviewer to dare to even compare the two programs together.


Still waiting for my cheap tin to turn up from Amazon.com. Most things seam to take a good 3 weeks from them these days
Those Star Trek fans...they're real bad asses.

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Those Star Trek fans...they're real bad asses,
Now that I think about it, I am a real badass dude. Clint Eastwood crosses to the other side of the road when he sees me coming. *adjusts Captain Kirk tie*
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Old 01-12-2005, 20:13   #243
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Let's hope the Jurassic Park fans don't start on the King Kong fans then. I'm sure they'd call any movie review stupid as 'an island full of dinosaurs, and they bring back the big monkey'.
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Old 01-12-2005, 21:06   #244
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Let's hope the Jurassic Park fans don't start on the King Kong fans then. I'm sure they'd call any movie review stupid as 'an island full of dinosaurs, and they bring back the big monkey'.
Do you know, in all honesty, that plot point never occurred to me until you mentioned it - there are extinct animals galore, but Denham decides to bring back an oversized ape!?!

I'd also like to know how they carted Kong back to the Venture, then managed to smuggle him through US customs:
Customs: "Is the big monkey with you, sir?"
Denham: "This isn't the big monkey you're looking for."
Customs: "This isn't the big monkey we're looking for."
Denham: "We can go about our business."
Customs: "You and the big monkey can go about your business."

... And as my brother pointed out when I told him about Son of Kong : "whatever happened to Mrs Kong?"

I know the topic up above was fans getting at each other, so I should make it perfectly clear: I LOVE King Kong. I mock it with tongue firmly in cheek.
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:39   #245
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Very interesting 'Classic Coming Attractions' column at The Bits by Barrie Maxwell looks at the films of Merian C. Cooper, and reviews, of course of the Kong Collection plus Grass and Chang here; I have to say that I agree with Barrie about the performances; others have accused the film of casting as a 'B' picture, as the production being slightly impoverished. I must say, I don't see that myself; of course, everyone plays second fiddle to an 18" model, but he's produced with great artistry, using contempory cutting edge techniques. As for the production, $700,000 was not the biggest of the era, but it wasn't small potatoes...

I've always seen Denham as Cooper, the great showman - nice to see this tribute to him. I'd advise anyone to seek out his other films, particularly those in association with John Ford.
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I'd also like to know how they carted Kong back to the Venture, then managed to smuggle him through US customs
At least its better than the 1976 remake. IIRC in the 1933 film they capture Kong on the beach, in the remake they gas him in the middle of the island, and with the ship moored way out at sea as well. No idea how they would get him into (and ultimately) out of that hold.

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... And as my brother pointed out when I told him about Son of Kong : "whatever happened to Mrs Kong?"
I think she lives with Mrs. Godzilla now.
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I've always seen Denham as Cooper, the great showman - nice to see this tribute to him.
And isnt Jack Black in the new remake supposed to be Peter Jackson ?
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I must say, this Tin Thing is an article to behold.
I couldn't agree more:


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Boy oh boy. I'd been quite immune to the whole "tin" fever until I saw those pics. I think I'm coming down with the first symptoms.
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It's the best Ł19 I've spent in a long while.
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i must admit, as tins go, it does look a nice one.
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So it comes in a digipak with slipcase rather than an Amaray? Or is this just the tin version?
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Ive got the standard 2 Disc version which comes in an Amaray.

EDIT: ah wait, mine was part of the collection. So not sure what it comes with when purchased on its own.

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The tin is genuinely beautiful--I was more impressed by it than I thought I would be.
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Ive got the standard 2 Disc version which comes in an Amaray.

EDIT: ah wait, mine was part of the collection. So not sure what it comes with when purchased on its own.
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It comes in a tin, in a digipak slipcase.
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From what I can gather, the digipack (I think it's a shame that Warners stopped producing those as a matter of course for their two-disk SEs) is only available in the tin.

Mine arrived today; love the Grauman's reproduction programme - to clear up what I mentioned at DVD Times, I understand that there was no overture, as a matter of course, played prior to 'Kong' during its first run. However, there was an overture played at the Grauman's premiere, but no-one today knows exactly what they played. The overture on the disc has apparently been cobbled together from various recordings of Steiner's score. From the 'Film Score Monthly' message boards:

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For those who have gotten their new KING KONG DVD, the overture that precedes the feature is NOT one that accompanied the film in 1933 or any other time for that matter.

This "overture" was pieced together by a film collector many years ago, using audio from the four 78rpm sides of music track that were pressed in limited quantity by RCA for Max Steiner in 1940. The five cues which appear on the 78's are "A Boat in the Fog" and "The Forgotten Island" (sequential); "Sacrificial Jungle Dance"; "The Aeroplanes"; and "Finale".

There was never a prepared overture to KING KONG, either live or recorded. I'm sure the Grauman's and Music Hall orchestras played SOMETHING but it was not material from the score. There were jungle "prologues" (dance routines) that preceded a couple of these engagements.

All of the surviving music tracks, from both acetate and optical film, appear on the Rhino soundtrack CD produced by yours truly. These tracks were used in scoring the newly-filmed Spider sequence that appears on the KONG supplemental disc.
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Got my tin delivered from Axel Music. Gonna get it wrapped for xmas. It had a slight dent on the back but can't be hassled to return it.
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The exchange above between tonytol and jackal is fascinating - the idea that Denham would bring back a gorilla instead of a T-Rex. The showman in him would clearly prefer the lizard but in terms of the core theme of the movie the ape is the obvious answer. You can't really see a T-Rex falling in love with and fondling Fay Wray, can you? Or climbing the Empire State with those stupid forearms. Or being the recipient of our human sympathy at every pivotal moment - we identify with Kong in a uniquely mammalian, hairy, nippled way. That's what this movie is all about and that is why, arguably, we rate it so highly despite its dreadful acting, idiotic dialogue and wonky special effects.
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If it was just about the ape, and not about 'dreadful acting, idiotic dialogue and wonky special effects' then we'd all be swooning over King Kong Escapes, Konga, or King Kong Lives! or even (if it's a nipple fest you want) Tarzan and King Kong.

There's something more going on here than sympathy for a relative...

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