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Old 19-06-2007, 10:15   #281
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But those bits were made for TV!!!
you miss the point i was on about the feel of a huge TV company that was running london pretty much, instead it came across like a naff sat channel.

also the casting of the guy from coupling as the head of the network was most bizzare, it needed someone with real weight instead i got a jonathan pryce feel from TWINE!
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Old 19-06-2007, 14:23   #282
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I've had this film for a year or so...it was one of the pile still in their cellophane...and I only just got round to watching it...

I was blown away...what an awesome film...I couldn't fault it, it was a real surprise as I really didn't know what to expect from it, not being a comic book fan and all.

"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - that line stuck out for me as did the core idea of the film that was discussed in the featurette - was V a terrorist or not? one man's terrorism is another man's fight for freedom...at least in this film!?

I also had no idea it was Hugo Weaving playing V...at times it sure did sound like Rowan Atkinson although I know it wasn't...it really bugged me until the film finished as I knew I recognised the voice - maybe if V had uttered "we've had our eye on your for some time now, Mr Anderson...I mean Creedy"
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Old 19-06-2007, 18:12   #283
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I brought this as a blind purchase a while ago and it is probably the best film I have seen this year. Like the member above I haven't read any of the comic books so I had no idea what was going to happen.
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Old 19-06-2007, 18:32   #284
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I watched it recently and it did very little for me. Style over substance. Watch Brazil instead.
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Old 19-06-2007, 19:00   #285
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I ******* hated it. The entire film is flawed beyond belief. It doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense, even right down to using the memory of Guy Fawkes as an influential figure for V's revolution. V is trying to bring down Christian fundamentalists and Fawkes was not a revolutionary but a militant Catholic. He would have more likely been part of the fascist government not terrorising against it. Did the liberal half-wits in Hollywood even bother to think before they jotted this Marxist trash down?

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Old 19-06-2007, 22:36   #286
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Spoke to Ben MILES a few weeks ago who stars in the film and he states he was off to Prague shortly to film a sequel to this .....
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Old 20-06-2007, 01:21   #288
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I ******* hated it. The entire film is flawed beyond belief. It doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense, even right down to using the memory of Guy Fawkes as an influential figure for V's revolution. V is trying to bring down Christian fundamentalists and Fawkes was not a revolutionary but a militant Catholic. He would have more likely been part of the fascist government not terrorising against it. Did the liberal half-wits in Hollywood even bother to think before they jotted this Marxist trash down?
Well, the "Christian fundamentalists" are hardly that in the film, are they? It's a corrupt theocracy embracing all sorts of vitiate indulgences by the elite (as long as you're not teh ghey) - the dogma of religion has just been used as an organising framework (and for the purposes of the allegory of this film, the "reality" of Guy Fawkes matters not, since the film concerns Britain very little). The notion of the meme that V represents is all that matters.
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Old 20-06-2007, 15:27   #289
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Well yes the government are Christian fundamentalists and yes it kind of matters that the film concerns itself with Fawkes and Britain considering it's set in Britain and uses the memory of Fawkes to draw parallels with V's actions. It's a lazy mess of a film and you're just making excuses I feel.
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Well yes the government are Christian fundamentalists and yes it kind of matters that the film concerns itself with Fawkes and Britain considering it's set in Britain and uses the memory of Fawkes to draw parallels with V's actions. It's a lazy mess of a film and you're just making excuses I feel.
I have to agree with anephric, Fawkes was used simply because he was was seen by many as a terrorist/revolutionary and tried to blow up Parliament, just like V was . The religious beliefs of the people in power is irrelevant because the main ideology of the film is that a single man can rebel and attempt a national revolution to overthrow the government.

That being said, the film itself was thoroughly mediocre and not because of the reasons you stated, but because the director and screenwriters were out of their depth to handle the original material.

While watching the film in the cinema i was constantly checking my watch and wondered why on earth that V for Vendetta was so valued amongst graphic novel readers. I went out to buy the book after the film and found it to be a far more enjoyable experience.
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I have to agree with anephric, Fawkes was used simply because he was was seen by many as a terrorist/revolutionary and tried to blow up Parliament, just like V was . The religious beliefs of the people in power is irrelevant because the main ideology of the film is that a single man can rebel and attempt a national revolution to overthrow the government.
There are plenty of more suitable terrorists which could have fit the bill. Fawkes was used because he was British, tried to blow up Parliament and because the writers were ignorant about what Fawkes actually terrorised in the name of (or at least assumed the US audience would be). There is absolutely no way V would look up to Fawkes as a reference figure to justify his own political militancy. You're right about the main ideology of the film but it uses nonsensical plot devices like above to tell it's story, hence the thing quickly becoming a train wreck from the offset.

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Old 21-06-2007, 00:40   #292
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It's not the figure of Fawkes that's wrong-headed, but the Wachowskis cramming the religious right in there to replace the ultra-Thatcherite government of the original comic. If it doesn't work for you, that's why. V also doesn't embody ANY of Fawkes' politics or philosophy (was Fawkes an anarchist? Hardly). As said above it's the notion of what the act symbolised, and the visuality of the mask that V dons (which is again the point - the mask had to be something striking because it's the notion of V that will cause foment, not the man, hence the ending of the comic).
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:42   #293
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Red face V for Vendetta

I saw this for the first time last night.
Because of the strong British cast, I thought the voice of V was Rowan Atkinson.
When I looked at the credits I saw it wasnt.


Good film.
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:20   #294
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Watched it last night on HD DVD after having the discs for ages. I thought it was brilliant. Can't see how they can have a sequel which will be crap.
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Old 15-09-2008, 10:24   #297
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Mixed feelings about this. Remember being very impressed by the trailers but disappointed with the film. Then for some reason bought it cheap because I wanted to see it again, liked it more but it's not amazing. Would like to read the GN at some point....
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Old 16-02-2010, 10:37   #298
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Very late in the day with this one.

But I was very suprised how good it was, always something interesting going off - a couple of nice bits of action, some great tangents of plot tested.

Most folk seem to be pulling apart the strands of politics and theology involved but isn't this a simple stand against your government or be suppressed message?
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Yeah i like this film a lot. Nothing to do whatsoever with Natile Portman in costume (lie)
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V for Vendetta

Never saw this originally. Just watched it for the first time and had a read through this thread.



In the same vein as the recent bump of the Contagion thread - where a recent viewing in the current climate changed my enjoyment of the film massively - I was wondering if the same could be said of this?



I really enjoyed it but not sure I would have had as much fun with it 15 years ago.
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