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Old 02-11-2003, 12:49   #1
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Lion King R2 fault

I've just bought the R2 Lion King from Safeway (Ł14.99 seemed like a good price) and discovered it falls over towards the end of chapter 3 (The morning report) in either the original or new versions of the film. I took it back and the replacement fails at exactly the same point (just on the cut from the new material back to the original).

It fails on both a Pioneer DV-360 and a Wharfedale DVD-750 but plays fine using vlc on my Linux box.
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Old 02-11-2003, 12:56   #2
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Could be a dodgy batch... I remember there was a problem with Fellowship Of The Ring from Tescos.

I'd try another supplier...

Edit: Watching my copy from Play this afternoon, so will post back later.
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Old 02-11-2003, 12:58   #3
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It played ok on my Sammy 709. Only faults I can see so far is the inclusion of the 'Morning Report' scene (how bad is that) and the irritably long menu intro.
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Old 02-11-2003, 13:05   #4
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I did notice that my Pioneer DV-737 player flashed up a "Search" message at that point, which it always does at the switch to second layer or to another part of same layer. No problems, though. (Got mine from Play.)

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Just press the "menu" button on the remote when the menu intro starts up- works for me...

Only had a quick look at it up to now- but the picture is absolutely stunning! The Morning Report song plays fine on my Sammy 511- though it is dreadful (why the hell bother putting it in in the first place?). Also, can anybody tell me how the hell to play the normal version of the film, and not the special edition? I can't find it in the menus!
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Old 02-11-2003, 14:29   #6
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Also, can anybody tell me how the hell to play the normal version of the film, and not the special edition? I can't find it in the menus!
From memory, it's under setup.
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So it is, cheers... Under the languages menu- which seems a little bizarre? :confused:
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I think it would of been better (If they have to) to have each version of the film on a seperate disc. I didn't want to watch the Special Edition, just the regular theatrical edition. Did take me a few minutes to work out how to get it!

Oh, and played fine on my Sony 525...
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The fault comes where the layer-change is - it's a bit curious to put the change so early into the film.
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Old 02-11-2003, 16:22   #10
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what's different about the spec ed? :confused:
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I think it would of been better (If they have to) to have each version of the film on a seperate disc. I didn't want to watch the Special Edition, just the regular theatrical edition. Did take me a few minutes to work out how to get it!
I agree. If they had used two separate versions rather than seamless branching, they could have given us the ORIGINAL version without the mangled crocodiles, waterfall in "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" and the animation of Mufasa appearing in the clouds.
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The fault comes where the layer-change is - it's a bit curious to put the change so early into the film.
It's because the first segment of the film (with and without the all-new musical number) is encoded twice on one layer, while the rest of the film is encoded once on the other layer.

Not seamless branching - branching at the layer change (the same was done with Beauty and the Beast - while the WIP was done with Angles). No Seamless Branching.
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Does anyone have problems with the DTS track? I watched it over the weekend and there were pronounced dropouts.

The DD5.1 track was fine.
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DTS played fine... on the theatrical version.
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No DTS or layer change or any problems on special edition version on my sony

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what exactly is a drop out ?
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My copy from Safeway works fine,

Rowan Atkinson made the right decision not to add his voice to the "morning report
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what exactly is a drop out ?
Sound - no sound for a millisecond- sound again.

It was on the special edition version.

Must have a dodgy disk from Woolies then.
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Whats all this morning report about then :confused:

Anyone care to expand on this
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Whats all this morning report about then :confused:

Anyone care to expand on this
It's a horrible little piece of animation, lasting about a minute, that was put into the film for the Imax release and has made its way on to the DVD. It features Zazu singing his morning report rather than speaking it -- a completely pointless afair. Worse still, the change in animation is quite noticeable, and young Simba's voice is completely different (the guy who voiced him had grown up, so they had to find another kid to do his part). This can thankfully be disabled by selecting to watch the "original" version (note the quotes, as it is still not quite the same version of the movie that was released in cinemas, on laserdisc and on VHS) from the setup menu, but this change between versions seems to be causing pauses or crashes on some players.
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