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Old 27-12-2005, 11:01   #81
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Talking of which, does anyone know what the actual changes to the film are yet?
Some outlined here.
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Old 28-12-2005, 18:26   #82
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Are Axel any good? I've never come across them before...

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Old 28-12-2005, 19:31   #83
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Are Axel any good? I've never come across them before...
I've ordered about £500 worth of stuff from them (scary when you look at your 'order history' isn't it!) and not had any problems that they did not resolve straight away.

On plus side, you order in pounds (so no conversion charges on credit/debit cards) and postage is free across Europe.
Shipping is from Denmark, so within EU - this avoids customs charges.
Their 'in stock'/'out of stock' markers actually work, unlike some of the DVD retailers no longer with us.....

Shipping is slower than from a UK retailer, but faster than from most US based retailers - it can take up to a week, and they rarely pack in boxes, so cardboard boxsets may have some damaged edges.
Prices are often more than the cheap US retailers (but when you factor in postage, and likely customs charges for US orders, its about the same).

They've had some trouble lately, over-popular boxing day sale crashed their website, but this was a one off and I'd have no qualms about ordering from them. Plus they will often ship stock as soon as they get it, meaning you can get stuff a few days before US release date.

*note - I am in no way affiliated to axelmusic.com, just a happy customer.
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Old 28-12-2005, 19:41   #84
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Alternatively, a DVD retailer which can no longer be mentioned on the forums is selling this for £30, no customs problems and usually quick delivery.
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Old 28-12-2005, 19:43   #85
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I've had nothing but great service from Axel Music - they're pricey in the main, but there are often bargains, particularly on sets that would incur customs elsewhere. And their customer service is second to none - they often reply within minutes of being emailed.
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Old 28-12-2005, 19:43   #86
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Just had the shipping note on my first Axel music order (The Last Days of Pompeii, thank you Dave) and their email says 'Depending on stock status, it will be shipped from either Germany, Holland or Denmark. Your package will usually arrive within 5-14 days. Please note that holidays in any of the above countries can delay the package.'
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I've now ordered from Axel - I noticed that they take Paypal, and I've some funds in my Paypal account that haven't yet reached my bank account, so I couldn't resist.

I am indescribably excited about this set

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First look at the set and a brief review at DVD Exclusive:

The work of Sam Peckinpah continues to receive a kingly treatment on DVD of a kind reserved for virtually no other director—and that includes such greats as Alfred Hitchcock, Orson Welles and John Ford.

This box set contains a number of engrossing featurettes, but its greatest claim to comprehensiveness are five audio commentaries from a quartet of Peckinpah biographers who have seemingly made a cottage industry out of annotating the director's filmography. The quartet cover all aspects of "twilight western" Ride the High Country, the underrated Ballad of Cable Hogue and Bloody Sam's masterpiece The Wild Bunch. They kick into high gear, however, for the commentaries provided for both versions of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

The team highlights the differences between the two films, respecting the "Turner preview" version (formerly known as the "director's cut") but favoring a new edit that blends the best of the original bowdlerized theatrical version and the "Turner" edition yet is actually shorter (115 min.) than the latter. The Peckinpah specialists even get their own featurette in a segment from the documentary A Simple Adventure Story: Sam Peckinpah, Mexico and the Wild Bunch. Here, they enter Peckinpah country for real, gushing to the camera (in an intellectual fashion, of course) as they visit the Mexico locations where The Wild Bunch was filmed.

The three best supplements in the collection are interviews with Peckinpah intimates: his sister, Fern Lea Peters; Stella Stevens from Hogue; and Billy the Kid himself, Kris Kristofferson (interviewed with bandmate and Peckinpah actor Donnie Fritts). Ms. Peters supplies a suitably homespun depiction of Sam's childhood, while Stevens speaks fondly about him as an artist but makes no bones about his "mean" behavior to Hogue's cast and crew. Kristofferson and Fritts supply the single best original moments in the collection, as they recall Sam's outrageous behavior on- and off-set and perform two touching Kristofferson ballads dedicated to the filmmaker.

HIT: An interview with Kris Kristofferson and bandmate Donnie Fritts contains some wonderfully colorful anecdotes about "Bloody Sam" and performances of two touching Kristofferson ballads about the filmmaker.
MISS: There's an element of overkill in the fact that an audio commentary track is provided for both versions of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.


It's a pity isn't it that the proposed inclusion of Major Dundee in this set - apparently Sony were set to loan it out to Warners - didn't come off. Like Savant - and many others here I suspect - I keep watching the letter box but it doesn't make the set come any quicker...
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Full review by DVD Savant here. Snippet:

Warner DVD's Sam Peckinpah's Classic Westerns Collection is a terrific boxed set that represents an enormous amount of work by both the Turner/Warner DVD department and the Peckinpah experts assembled by Nick Redman. Every transfer is a vast improvement. The Wild Bunch strikes one as a renewed experience. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid's two versions will give the Peckinpah adepts fresh fodder for contemplation and debate.

The assembled authors provide full-length commentaries for all of the features. We get facts, opinions, analysis and personal perspectives from each of them, with the phrase most commonly heard being how Peckinpah and The Wild Bunch changed their lives. Their collective interpretation of the world of Sam Peckinpah is nigh-unimpeachable.

The assembled extras will be too much of a good thing for many fans, especially because of understandable overlaps in coverage and other redundancies between commentaries and featurettes. The collection comes to honor Peckinpah and not to criticize him, and some viewers are going to get the idea that he belongs in the company of other Hollywood casualties like Orson Welles and Erich von Stroheim. His story is a lot more complicated than that.
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Another review of The Wild Bunch SE at DVD Town. Now, if my boxset would kindly ship. Aw, go on ...
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That Savant review is packed with half-baked critical comments about Peckinpah and some decidedly odd observations about the films.
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That Savant review is packed with half-baked critical comments about Peckinpah and some decidedly odd observations about the films.
No! The savant having half-baked critical comments??? Decidedly odd observations??? How can it be????
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I tell you, I wasn't quite prepared for some of the whoppers in his "review". My favorite was the "sleeper success" of Ride The High Country. The film played the bottom half of a double bill in the US - there was no success. The people who managed to see it liked it, but its success was critical and its following only happened years later.

My second favorite is his saying that the DVD of RTHC offers up gorgeous color hues that the negative material can't provide in new prints. Say what? The negative is in perfect shape and always has been. I've seen new prints of RTHC twice - one done right around the time of the laserdisc release (which made that laser's awful picture quality truly baffling), which I saw at the Nuart here in LA, and one done more recently - both prints were absolutely stunning.

There are other amusing errors throughout - this guy is losing any credibility he once had. And some of his views on the films themselves border on the outre.
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There are other amusing errors throughout - this guy is losing any credibility he once had. And some of his views on the films themselves border on the outre.
Do you mean, as in "pour encourager les outres?" or "if the critical consensus moves, kill it."
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Do you mean, as in "pour encourager les outres?" or "if the critical consensus moves, kill it."
I bristled at, amongst other things, some of his 'Pat Garrett' comments (having said that I am, it should be said, very uncomfortable with Peckinpah's cameo), but he's entitled to his viewpoint and I hesitate to recommend his execution at dawn.

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Bad news for anyone waiting on R2 to deliver in the Upcoming Thread.
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1 Sam Peckinpah's The Legendary Western Collection
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Who is selling this the cheapest and customs free?
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Cheapest is probably Amazon or DVD Import (aren't they an affiliate any more? Can't find the link...). I think it works out about £27/8 ish for either. Neither is customs "safe", however you may get lucky with Amazon, while Import are, ahum, a pretty safe bet . However, you may still be waiting for your boxset this time next year from Import.
I think the cheapest 100% customs safe option is Axel DVD @ £33.99. They've got my pre-order. Now ship it, damn you, ship!

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