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Old 03-10-2005, 17:20   #1
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Clint Eastwood's other Westerns - Any SE's?

After viewing this year AFOD,FAFDM,TGTBTU (& FOD/DYS) I have become a big western fan and discovered a completely new genre in filmmaking.

Does anyone know whether there are plans to release Special Editions in similar packaging to the above for the following Clint Eastwood westerns? :

Hang 'em High
High Plains Drifter
Two Mules for Sister Sara
Joe Kidd
Pale Rider
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Nope; but have you got the SEs of Unforgiven or, a little less spectacularly, The Outlaw Josey Wales?

And be sure to visit The Classic Western Thread
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No I haven't got nor seen Unforgiven (tho I have heard it is rather good) as for Outlaw Josey Wales I have heard that is good too and may catch it on TCM on 5 October
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as for Outlaw Josey Wales I have heard that is good too
Cancel good and put in Eastwoods best film of all.
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The Outlaw Josey Wales is a fairly under-rated gem, and is up there with Clint's very finest work.
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High Plains Drifter is a strange one. Quite a good film but its the only film i can think of where the hero rapes someone.
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Do any of the other titles I mentioned in my first post or 'Josey Wales' compare with any of the 'Dollars' trilogy at all?
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yes.

Pale Rider, Unforgiven and Outlaw Josey Wales are all as good as the Dollars trilogy imo. High Plains Drifter, 2 Mules for Sister Sarah & Joe Kidd are also great movies.

tbh I think the only Clint Western that I wasn't keen on was Hang Em High.
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yes. tbh I think the only Clint Western that I wasn't keen on was Hang Em High.
I love Hang Em High. A perfect example of a revenge western.
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Hang 'em High was Eastwood's first Hollywood western after the Dollars films and is a deliberate attempt to cash in; Ted Post is no Sergio Leone, but it's okay.

High Plains Drifter is just brilliant, taking Eastwood's 'Man With No Name' persona and giving it a good hard twist. It's a western like no other - haunting is the perfect word.

Two Mules for Sister Sara and Joe Kidd are okay, I've never quite forgiven Pale Rider for being HPD 2, crossed with one of my all-time favourite westerns Shane, but after years of therapy I'm warming to it more and more (in my mind it's no longer a rip, but a homage, so that's okay then...)

The Outlaw Josey Wales is Eastwood's first epic western, wonderfully written, directed and acted and is just pipped at the post, IMHO, by Unforgiven, (which I shouldn't be talking about in this forum - so sue me...) which is both late period genre and late period Eastwood and stands out as a prime example of both - intelligent, many layered, beautifully achieved. Mike Sutton has reviewed more than one of these for DVD Times - do yourself a favour seek out his reviews. Mike; where are you?

TBH, though, trying to compare any Leone film with any other - including other Italian western - is dangerous inasmuch as you may come away disappointed. Accept the Eastwood westerns as, at times, simply great westerns and you can't go far wrong. It's a shame though we haven't got more SEs.
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I betcha Mike would mosey up to the bar, light a cigar, take a long slow sip of his whiskey, drop a plug into the spitoon, re-arrange his genitals and mutter something' like, "I kinda always had a likin' for The Beguiled."
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I liked The Beguiled.
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The Beguiled is a fascinating film, but then isn't really a western.
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The Beguiled is a fascinating film, but then isn't really a western.
Makes a good double bill with 'Black Narcissus'.

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I've always loved Bronco Billy - it works on so many levels and is quite delightful.
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After viewing this year AFOD,FAFDM,TGTBTU (& FOD/DYS) I have become a big western fan and discovered a completely new genre in filmmaking.
Sounds to me like you want to be tracking down Once Upon A Time In The West and Once Upon A Time In America.
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imo Once Upon a Time in the West is garbage compared to Clints westerns, I never understood the appeal.
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Sounds to me like you want to be tracking down Once Upon A Time In The West and Once Upon A Time In America.
As for Once Upon A Time In The West I have seen mixed opinions about this but there's only one way to find out whether I like it or not. Once Upon a Time In America, even tho is not a western, i may get round to seeing that one day
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Most of the ground already been covered so, in brief:

"Hang Em High" - One of Ted Post's best films (not saying much) and it's got a quite extraordinary cast. Some good scenes, particularly the 'hanging circus' which comes out of nowhere. Dribbles away a bit towards the end.

"Two Mules For Sister Sara" - Inconsistent. The best bits are wonderful and MacLaine and Eastwood make a good pairing. But it's inconsequential and lacking in any real fire - Siegel seems to be unengaged throughout.

"Joe Kidd" - Strictly double-bill fodder as far as I'm concerned but it looks nice enough.

"The Beguiled" - Brilliant. One of Siegel's best films and Eastwood stretching himself as an actor (perhaps a bit too far). The last reel is among the closest Hollywood has ever got to pure Southern Gothic.

"The Outlaw Josey Wales" - Arguably Clint's best film and I prefer it to "Unforgiven" because it's less self-conscious. Packed with great action scenes but what you remember is the comedy and the lovely idea of a vengeful loner becoming, inadvertantly and unwillingly, the father of a community. Chief Dan George is inspired.

"Bronco Billy" - Delightful and the more you love Westerns, the more you'll enjoy it.

"Pale Rider" - Not keen on this. Terribly slow, which makes you tick off the homages to other films, and Bruce Surtees is encouraged to outdo Gordon Willis.

"Unforgiven" - An undeniably great film, if morally confused, and one of Clint's most thoughtful and layered performances. Hackman and Freeman are great too and I love Richard Harris's all-too brief but elegant turn as English Bob. Deserved its awards.

Although it's not a Western, can I put in a word for "Heartbreak Ridge" which I love to bits and which plays like a homage to "Sands of Iwo Jima". Clint is desperately funny and completely in character.
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