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Old 08-05-2003, 10:32   #41
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I have the CD soundtrack to My Name is Nobody, there are some quite catchy themes in there.

On a side note, did anyone else score Italian Westerns? or did morriconi have a monopoly?
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On a side note, did anyone else score Italian Westerns? or did morriconi have a monopoly?
For better or worse, he did not, old bean.

For my money, Luis Enriquez Bacalov brought up the rear in some style. The less said about Guido e Maurizio de Angelis, the better.

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Recently I have been watching quite a few Italian Westerns...
Alfred, my dear chap, I cannot imagine how I missed this excellent thread. It seems to have coincided with my recent two weeks' absence.

I am caught short at the moment, but as I do share your enthusiasm for this delightful genre, I shall certainly be back with a few thoughts on the subject after tiffin.

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I look forward to reading your next post Rex and you are spot on about the de Angelis brothers.

I watched The Strangers Gundown (AKA Django the *******) a couple of days ago and it was a genuinely creepy spaghetti western with a great atmosphere. I recommend it to any one who has not seen it and its only about $8 over at Deep Discount DVD.

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Alfred, my dear chap, I cannot imagine how I missed this excellent thread. It seems to have coincided with my recent two weeks' absence.

I am caught short at the moment, but as I do share your enthusiasm for this delightful genre, I shall certainly be back with a few thoughts on the subject after tiffin.
My, oh, my. Said spot of tiffin turned into a weekend affair. Such are the travails of a life of leisure!

Nevertheless, better late than never, a few this musings...

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1. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Not only is this my favourite Italian western, but it is the picture which prompted me to take the plunge into DVD. I have long loved the film, but I was simply bowled over by a couple of cinema screenings (a couple of years apart) in the 1990s. I possessed a copy of Warners' abominable full-screen VHS release (indeed, I have kept it for its perverse lack of quality; it even boasts one of those vertically stretched title sequences), and sitting down at home after the big screen experience to relive the film's joys revealed the shortcomings of VHS - cropped or otherwise - in no uncertain terms. I had resisted the laserdisc bug, but I came across the Region 1 DVD release of "GBU" in Amsterdam in the late '90s. That was that: once home, "GBU" my first DVD in March of 2000. I am quite certain that I splashed out the then full whack of £20 (trousered by HMV), and I then had to go and buy a player.

The DVD still leaves much to be desired, but there has never been a better way of seeing the film at home. My favourite sequence is that at Sad Hill, when Tuco rushes to seek out the grave, and the camera swirls and swirls through 360 degrees while Morricone's "Ecstasy of Gold" soars, the images blurring into psychadelic delirium. Oh, simply glorious cinema!

I have had the good fortune to enjoy cinema screenings of all Leone's films from "A Fistful of Dollars" onwards. The "Fistful" print appeared to have been wrapped around an Almerian cactus for twenty or more years (and Leone did not quite have his eye in at the time he made this film, however entertaining), "A Fistful of Dynamite" remained something of a misfire, and this is not the place to go into "Once Upon a Time in America" (other than, perhaps, to say that I regard it as being over-rated). However, "For a Few Dollars More", "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", and "Once Upon a Time in the West" are nothing less than sensations, with the latter two in particular feasts for the eyes.

Frankly, should the opportunity to view either of these on the big screen present itself, move heaven and earth to ensure that the opportunity is not missed.

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The UK release of The Big Gundown was shown as a support movie to Easy
Rider back in the 70's. It's the severely shortened version but the only one
I've ever seen. I would love to see a full length version come out on DVD as
it's one of the most underrated of all spaghetti westerns. Incidentally, I
still have the mono soundtrack for it that I bought for 14/6 in Woolies back
in 1970 - wonder what it's worth now.
I say, "The Big Gundown" tops my spaghetti western DVD wish-list. In fact, even to see the film would be a long-term ambition achieved!

I may certainly recommend the stirring soundtrack, available on Italian-issued CD (Mask MK701) as "La resa dei conti", paired with "Faccia a faccia" (excellent film; also directed and co-written by Sergio Sollima), both by Morricone. The London VHS label Made in Hong Kong, which cornered the market in fine editions of Asian works before the advent of DVD and HKL, pilfered a particularly rousing theme from the former for their sensational "Moon Warriors" trailer. The result was an eye- and ear-popping sensation which did the film rather more justice than it deserved!
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Oh and if anyone can tell me about the quality of the r1 Today It's Me... Tomorrow It's You! DVD I'd appreciate it. I used to watch this a lot until my VHS decide to die and picked this tape for it's death rattle!.
It's a kick ass Spaghetti Western that has a unique look (like Django/Mud The Great Silence/Snow). I think it was shot in the forests of Germany. Plus it stars Kurosawa regular Tatsuya Nakadai as the baddie.
And Toshiro Mifune may be seen wielding his sword in "Red Sun", which also features Tetsu Nakamura (who started all the trouble in "The Manster" as Dr Suzuki).

The oddball imported cast members are one of the pleasures of the genre.

It may come as no surprise to see Klaus Kinski, Cameron Mitchell, Telly Savalas, Mark Damon, Caroll Baker, Mickey Hargitay, John Saxon, John Steiner, Ivan Rassimov, Jack Palance, Jack Taylor and Farley "The Slasher Is the Sex Maniac" Granger pop up, but this little lot are only the tip of the iceberg.

Pier Paolo Pasolini, Orson Welles, Lo Lieh, Luke Askew, RG Armstrong, Harry Carey Jr, Ringo Starr, Martine Beswick, Soledad Miranda, Fred Williamson, Jim Kelly, Victoria Abril, Robert Shaw, Paul Naschy, William Shatner (as twins, no less, in "White Comanche"), Jenny Agutter, Sybil Danning, Steve Reeves, Richard Conte, Sterling Hayden, Miou Miou, Patrick McGoohan, Mamie Van Doren, Fernando Rey and Woody Strode each acted in one or more.

Behind the camera, Joe d'Amato, Jesus Franco, Tinto Brass, Riccardo Freda, Mario Bava, Antonio Margheriti, Carlo Lizzani, Lina Wertmuller, Leon Klimovsky, Umberto Lenzi, Ruggero Deodato, Vic Morrow and Monte Hellman each directed at least one.

Demofilo Fidani directed far to many.

And Dario Argento was involved in writing (if not unofficially directing) more than one (including the above mentioned "Today It's Me..." and, in collaboration with Bernardo Bertolucci, "Once Upon a Time in the West").
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Speaking of Fulci, anyone seen "BULLET FOR SANDOVAL", another spag
western? It's only $8.10 at DeepDiscount, and acording to the specs has a
16:9 print.
The transfer is indeed anamorphic, and framed accurately at 2.35:1, but grotty nevertheless. In common with all VCI's releases of Italian westerns, the print in question was one prepared for the American market in the 1960s or '70s, which may have resulted in cuts or re-editing as well as dubbing. According to the IMDB the film's running time is 105 minutes. That of the DVD is rather less at 90:02 minutes.

The film itself is nothing special either, alas.
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If you like My Name Is Nobody, avoid like the plague 'Nobody is Still My
Name'.
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Sorry guys, I got "My Name is Still Nobody" confused with "My Name is Still Trinity"! The supposed sequel to My Name Is Nobody is, as Goragio has mentioned, "Nobody's The Greatest" and unfortunately it really is pants although the one and only reviewer on IMDB seems to love it. Each to their own I guess.
Agreed. Very, very poor show, although it is curious to see Miou Miou playing a major part in this just after "Les valseuses". Of course, it comes as no surprise to find Klause Kinski in such a picuture, but he is on screen for mere minutes.

Christopher Frayling's biography of Leone sheds some light the reasons for the film's shortcomings.
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This is for a long deleted book (which I have a copy of) called "Italian Western The Opera of Violence". It is one of the finest and most readable books on Italian Westerns there is and I treasure it. Have had it for years and read it so many times.
I say, agreed again, old boy.

I have the French edition, which also dates from the 1970s, and it is fascinating to see a (more or less) contemporary overview of a genre which was then much derided.

(Any luck in the auction, Alfred?)

Thomas Weisser's "Spaghetti Westerns - The Good, the Bad and the Violent", published in 1992 by specialist house McFarland, is useful if expensive at $55. Over 550 "Eurowesterns" (and, for some reason, "Ned Kelly" and "Mad Dog Morgan") are given alphabetical entries, often with a critical insight (sometimes misjudged), along with a range of stills and fascinating posters from a variety of European markets (none, alas, reproduced in colour).

More so than the his Leone biography, old Frayling's "Spaghetti Westerns" is the essential text on the genre. There have been two editions on which you may try to get your hands, but either shall do as the second adds no more than a new preface. It does amuse me that this chap is the rector of the Royal College of Art.

A charming interview between Frayling and the obsessed Cenk Kiral may be found here.

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All was very delightful for me, asking about a matter and getting very detailed answers with bonus anecdotes. Professor Frayling is a very lively person, always ready shoot a surprising bullet at you.
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Fistful of Dynamite was released on LD by MGM, in 2 versions.

The standard rated release (PG), and an unrated version that restored 20 minutes to the film.
The later has never been released in the UK.
Hopefully they will release it on DVD one day, and I can upgrade from laserdisc.
An excellent article on the film's many and varied incarnations, by erstwhile MGM insider Glenn Erickson, may be found here.

And if this piece at the Region 2 Project is to be believed, out of the blue "A Fistful of Dynamite" is set to gain a British DVD release on July 21st. However, shall Mao have his say, old beans?
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the de Angelis brothers.
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I watched The Strangers Gundown (AKA Django the *******) a couple of days ago and it was a genuinely creepy spaghetti western with a great atmosphere. I recommend it to any one who has not seen it and its only about $8 over at Deep Discount DVD.
I say, I am simply delighted to learn that this release has finally seen the light of day, after a series of postponments dating back to last summer. I do like this picture, and shall be upgrading from my Aktiv VHS release (which was most welcome at the time!).

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Miscellany

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Do not the Italians have the most unique aptitude for coining delightfully evocative titles, especially when translated literally? Indeed, I considered these worth collecting in the past. Apart from those which toss the words dollars (e.g. "$20,000 for Every Corpse"), gun(s) ("Seven Guns for the MacGregors"), blood ("To the Last Drop of Blood"), man ("The Man They Called Apocalypse Joe"), Django ("Even Django Has His Price"), Ringo ("Five Dollars for Ringo", "$100,000 for Ringo"), Trinity ("A Bounty Killer in Trinity") and/or Sartana ("I Am Sartana...Sell Your Guns for a Coffin") about with the most gay of abandon, other favourites (if only in the title stakes, with many likely to be of particular appeal to those with a Roman Catholic background) include...
  • "Alive...or Preferably Dead"
  • "...and His Name Was Holy Ghost" (one which I have long wanted to see, as I myself had a Holy Ghost schooling)
  • "...and They Smelled the Strange, Exciting, Dangerous Smell of Dollars"
    (actually released by this very title in English!)
  • "The Artist Is a Gunfighter"
  • "Attention, Gringo! ... And Sabata Shall Return!"
  • "*******, Go and Kill"
  • "Chrysanthemums for a Band of Swine"
  • "Clint the Stranger"
  • "The Desperadoes Who Smell of Filth and Death" (which became the afore-mentioned "A Bullet for Sandoval")
  • "Dig Your Grave, Friend...Sartana Is Coming"
  • "An Eye for an Eye, a Tooth for a Tooth"
  • "God Created Them...I Kill Them"
  • "God Forgives...I Do Not!"
  • "God's Gun"
  • "Go...Kill and Return" (not to be confused with the same director's
    "Kill Them All and Come Back Alone")
  • "Go With God, Gringo"
  • "Gringos Never Forgive"
  • "Halleljua and Sartana, Sons of...Sons of God"
  • "Have a Good Funeral, Friends...Sartana Will Pay"
  • "Heads, You Die...Tails, I Kill You...They Call Me Hallelujah"
  • "I Am Sartana...Your Angel of Death"
  • "I Came, I Saw, I Shot"
  • "If You Live, Shoot!" (renamed "Django, Kill!", of course)
  • "If You Meet Sartan, Pray for Your Death"
  • "In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Colt"
  • "Long Live Death...Yours!"
  • "Love, Bullets and Frenzy"
  • "A Minue to Pray, a Second to Die"
  • "My Body for a Game of Poker" (directed - with good reason, under an
    alias - by Lina Wertmuller!)
  • "My Name Is Mallory...M as in Death"
  • "One Damned Day at Dawn Met Django and Sartana...the Last Blood"
  • "Seven Guns for Timothy"
  • "The Strange Story of Minnesota Stinky" (presented in Odorama,
    perchance?)
  • "To Trust Is Good...to Shoot Is Better"

On occasion, the Italians have been beaten at their own game. "Da uomo a uomo" was retitled for international cosumption (with quite some flair, it must be admitted) as "Death Rides a Horse", and the rather touching "Los amigos" became "Deaf Smith and Johnny Ears".

Not to mention anglicised credits. Leone famously became Bob Robertson, Morricone Leo Nichols and Dan Savio, but the following examples are among those which never fail to bring a smile to my face.
  • Slim Alone
  • Audrey Amber
  • John Barracuda
  • Tony Bighouse
  • Charlie Bravo
  • Max Dean
  • Lucky Dickerson
  • Men Fury
  • Chip Gorman
  • Lucky MacMurray
  • Dick Spitfire
  • Alf Thunder



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An Italian label, GDM, has issued a welcome expanded OST CD, "Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo - The Complete Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" (sic) (CD Club 7001).

Links: Morricone in a nutshell, and in rather greater detail.

Official site

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A specialist American label, DRG Records, has issued four volumes of spaghetti western music on CD. Volume III is the lacks the appeal of the other three, which are all double-disc sets simply brimming over with delights and come heartily recommended by Rex.

The same label has also issued a number of jolly good all-Morricone soundtracks and compilations.

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Believe it or not, a website has been devoted to Enzo G. Castellari (i.e. Enzo Griolami), director and co-writer of "Johnny Hamlet" and "Keoma" (not to mention "Go...Kill and Return", "Kill Them All and Come Back Alone" and "I Came, I Saw, I Shot"!)



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Anchor Bay's "Django" set may still be found for sale. The transfer is not a patch on Blue Underground's, and the disc lacks an Italian soundtrack, but for completists it remains the only means of obtaining this key film's sole official sequel, the so-so "Django Strikes Again", and may be had for a mere $13.20 (down from an original RRP of $40) at Deep Discount.

Michael Brook reviewed the two discs here and here.

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Like "Nobody's the Greatest", Alex Cox's "Straight to Hell" is a must-see in this context, but not likely to be one which you shall want to see more than once.
The British release is not to be sniffed at, and a mere £4.49 at Play.

An entry from the good fellow's "Director's Diary" at the BBC, concerning the forthcoming DVD of "Once Upon a Time in the West".

Links: Cox's old website, and his current one.

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At DVD Savant:

Articles on restoration work on "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly": one here and another here

And, in two parts, a potted history, of the genre in general.

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Assorted links:

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And if this piece at the Region 2 Project is to be believed, out of the blue "A Fistful of Dynamite" is set to gain a British DVD release on July 21st. However, shall Mao have his say, old beans?
I do hope so; tantalising comments from MGM's John Kirk on the Sergio Leone web board aren't they?

Yes, I will be putting the complete final flashback into the end of "Duck, You Sucker!" for theatrical re-release. I can't tell you anything about DVD plans; I work in the studio's Film Dept., and the Home Video Dept. is a world unto its own - so far it has only selected about half of the films I've restored in the last 5 or 6 years for release on DVD.

His last comment is particularly puzzling and frustrating.

He does add: In response to the questions about theatrical play in the U.K. of our Leone films, I can only say that I expect the restorations and new prints of all four films to be completed by the end of this year.

So it appears unlikely that the July release will actually be a restoration. However...

Excellent work BTW Rex

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Excellent work BTW Rex
My pleasure, old chap.

By the by, when I see you, did you catch this spot of good news about "Fitzcarraldo"?

As chaps are wont to say on this internet wheeze, HTH.

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Yes, I did Rex thanks. But I've not given up hope on that darned box set!

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That’s quite a post Rex and its nice to see you back.

Your spot on about The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly I love that scene too. I remember when I first saw it was quite an experience even on my 24 inch WS set.

Unfortunately I lost the auction, I picked up the cheap Pocket Essentials books which were good for the price.

The Strangers Gundown DVD is anamorphic but has annoying green glow around objects and quite a few scratches. It is still worth the $8 I paid for it.

Thanks for links Rex

If you have deep pockets this link may be worth a look

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/movie/special/west/sale.html

and this site has a list of most of the Italian Westerns available on DVD and comments on the quality of the DVD.

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The Strangers Gundown DVD is anamorphic but has annoying green glow around objects and quite a few scratches. It is still worth the $8 I paid for it.
I regret to say that that sounds par for the course among VCI's spaghetti releases. Many thanks for the warning, nevertheless. When I next order from DD, I shall be picking this up in spite of its shortcomings. As you indicate, at that price it would be rather rude to say no!

I look forward to comparing it to Aktiv's VHS release.

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Thanks for links Rex
My pleasure. Most of mine were first found a few years ago, when I began unearthing all I could on the genre on the internet. I have checked them all, and those that I posted remain interesting - and functional! I had no small number of others, but the links are now dead.

One particular loss which springs to mind is a lengthy piece by Alex Cox on "Django, Kill!". Even a Google search now fails to turn it up.
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If you have deep pockets this link may be worth a look

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/movie/special/west/sale.html
Oh, I have drooled over those sets more than once! How extraordinary that these Japanese johnnies have such a yen for this genre!

I have not been able to bring myself to take the plunge on one or more of these, in spite of the fact that they tend to be "mixed bags". Each set works out at more than £100 - before carriage charges. Not to mention those cheeky customs chappies...
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