Doctor Who - The Christmas Invasion & Attack of the Graske - DVD update - Page 5

mnementh · 29-12-2005, 16:28

Watched it several times now and really enjoyed it. Only bug-bear for me is why the Scientist, who's blood was used to control 1/3 of the population, wasn't affected.

Couldn't care less whether it was having a pop at politics or not, just enjoyed it for what it was.

Looking forward to the new series.

BlackJedi · 29-12-2005, 17:39

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Originally Posted by robgallop

Only bug-bear for me is why the Scientist, who's blood was used to control 1/3 of the population, wasn't affected.

It wasn't his own blood, obviously.

mnementh · 29-12-2005, 19:38

I just assumed it was his blood he sent up, but having watched it again he doesn't say.

Guest 3003 · 29-12-2005, 21:22

This wasn't my favourite new Who episode by any means, but it was good fun and I'm pleased that it was so successful with viewers.

I watched 'Bad Wolf'/'The Parting of the Ways' again last week courtesy of the boxset and it really is wonderful. Christopher Eccleston's touching farewell scene is about as well-written and well-acted as the programme has ever been IMO.

2005 has been a terrific year for Who and hopefully Series Two will build on that. Congratulations to the production team on a stupendous achievement, unthinkable just a couple of years ago.

Panavision · 29-12-2005, 22:11

The show would'nt have done so well if there were not characters and stories the general public couldn't relate to; this explains why the constant link to Rose's home and Earth.

banus · 30-12-2005, 02:29

of course it was a thinly veiled swipe at New Labour and Blair in particular, why not ? they also took a swipe at Bush and no one is complaining about that.

In the 80's the whole of the alternative comedy scene was build on an anti Thatcher platform, and again none is complaining about that here.

Blair frankly gets off lightly from todays ex alternative comedians - so if it is left to the Dr to take over then so be it.

A good episode, just watched it tonight.

I think the series does have to get more 'off world' Roses mother and boyfriend are becoming tedious.

thescrounger · 30-12-2005, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Panavision

The show would'nt have done so well if there were not characters and stories the general public couldn't relate to; this explains why the constant link to Rose's home and Earth.

And that's why Doctor WHo has 10 million viewers and Star Trek only gets 3 or 4 million. Doctor Who always did cater to the mainstream.

Panavision · 30-12-2005, 15:15

I'm not expert on Dr Who but is the latest incarnation the most successful?

eye__writ · 30-12-2005, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Greig

The aliens were about to wipe out one-third of the world's population.

No they weren't. The Doctor explained that it wasn't possible to make the population follow through with the suicide threat.

Mr Majestik · 30-12-2005, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Panavision

I'm not expert on Dr Who but is the latest incarnation the most successful?

Think the Tom Baker years were the most watched.

But we did only have 3 channels in those days.

Guest 34031 · 30-12-2005, 19:02

Arguably the two best episodes of Series 1, the ones with the freaky children, are being repeated back-to-back on BBC3 NOW

mikef · 31-12-2005, 09:18

Has anyone been able to make out what the whispering was saying when the 'energy' was floating out of the Doctor near the beginning?

Also, David Tennant was credited in this as 'The Doctor', whereas Ecclestone was 'Doctor Who'. Trivia I know....

mikef

Guest 47652 · 31-12-2005, 09:31

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Originally Posted by eye__writ

No they weren't. The Doctor explained that it wasn't possible to make the population follow through with the suicide threat.

Ah, foiled!

So his response was even more appropriate since he saw through their bluff, and the PM's response was even more heinous.

Guest 3003 · 31-12-2005, 11:34

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Originally Posted by mikef

Has anyone been able to make out what the whispering was saying when the 'energy' was floating out of the Doctor near the beginning?

No, but RTD says in the commentary (available via bbc.co.uk/doctorwho) that the energy represents "Time Lord essence".

Roy · 31-12-2005, 11:46

Just caught up with this yesterday. It's an odd show Who isn't it?

On the one hand you have some decent (read not great) performances by the actors, who grapple valiantly with mostly terrible dialogue coupled with extremely lightweight plots that have neither depth nor breadth.

I watch regularly, I think in the hope that it will all click and the show will extend beyond it's Saturday afternoon Childrens BBC subtext.

RTD seems thus far to be unable to bring much originality to the show, and is clearly a poor man's Grant Morrison, there have been occassions when GM's influence has been incredibly obvious (Bad Wolf and the "I can see all of your atoms/and I divide them" line).

The problem is he doesn't have the imgination to really pull it off, making me wish that Morrison himself was writing this, Davies' only advantage is that he already has the job.

On the upside, Tenant looks like he has the makings of a good Who, but I long for somone to write the show who has real talent.

Production values are typically BBC, lending it that constant air of amateur dramatics, much like Rome.

Perhaps that's part of the shows innate Britishness....

Chick21 · 31-12-2005, 17:46

Only just got to watch the episode, pretty good I thought! Loved the teaser for Season 2, can't wait to watch it!

thescrounger · 31-12-2005, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Roy

I watch regularly, I think in the hope that it will all click and the show will extend beyond it's Saturday afternoon Childrens BBC subtext.

That's about as ridiculous as saying when will CBBC start making dramas with full on nudity and mind games.

You do understand the target audience of the show don't you? Doctor Who is never going to get any deeper (superficially) than Harry Potter does. There is however, already plenty of adult subtext in there. Are you missing it????

Roy · 31-12-2005, 17:53

Quite the opposite, the adult subtexts that are there merely accentuate the childishness of the rest of the show to me at least.

thescrounger · 31-12-2005, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Roy

Quite the opposite, the adult subtexts that are there merely accentuate the childishness of the rest of the show to me at least.

I disagree. I think RTD is great at writing dialogue, not so hot on plotting, but that's a minor complaint and this episode proved that he was improving in this regard, compared to some of his last season episodes.

You may well be wishing for the kind of show that would be on BBC2 at 9pm, but that simply isn't what is going to happen.

Reverend Scapegoat · 31-12-2005, 18:01

Not until Torchwood comes out, anyway