The Manchester City 2011-2012 Thread - Page 8

rustybin · 16-08-2011, 03:36

City have found their level. If only they could play Championship teams every week :-)

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Deron · 16-08-2011, 07:46

Great debut.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 08:48

I just watched the highlights and Agureo is astounding!. I thought it might take him 3-6 months to settle, it wasn't even 3-6 mins!.

Silva was amazing as usual but seems to be going for goal a lot more too which can only be a good thing. I will be very interested to see what happens if Tevez stays.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 09:20

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Originally Posted by DeadYankee

I thought it was just Spurs and Everton not starting their seasons until next week

DY Wrong yet again!.

zharrt · 16-08-2011, 10:58

Why does Aguero have "KUN" on the back of his shirt, I thought this was just a nickname?

Rob · 16-08-2011, 11:03

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Originally Posted by zharrt

Why does Aguero have "KUN" on the back of his shirt, I thought this was just a nickname?

Like Robinho, Juninho, Pele etc. are all nicknames, so it's always happened this way.

DeadYankee · 16-08-2011, 11:03

He likes to have his name and also who he plays for on the back of the shirt. The amount he gets paid you'd have thought he could have shelled out for the extra T and S

Dave T · 16-08-2011, 11:06

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Originally Posted by DeadYankee

He likes to have his name and also who he plays for on the back of the shirt. The amount he gets paid you'd have thought he could have shelled out for the extra T and S

A bit obvious that, by your usually high standards.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 11:09

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A bit obvious that, by your usually high standards.

It was a Regurgitated "joke" from when Aguero signed in the 1st place. I think he needs some new material.

DeadYankee · 16-08-2011, 11:11

I'll just go out and buy some

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 11:13

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I'll just go out and buy some

Anything to improve your stale antiquated views would be good.

Rob · 16-08-2011, 11:22

How about DY teams up with Jimmy Cricket - he's outdated and isn't funny either so they'd make a perfect double act.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 11:25

Is this DY??

Must crush Capitalism

zharrt · 16-08-2011, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Rob

Like Robinho, Juninho, Pele etc. are all nicknames, so it's always happened this way.

They were nicknames in replace of their actual names, I have just never seen someone with both a nickname and his real name

MaxNutter · 16-08-2011, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Grunge

Is this DY??

Must crush Capitalism

it's not actually capitalism though, is it?

DeadYankee · 16-08-2011, 14:30

No it isn't capitalism, it's a corruption of the principles of sport and as such their victories will always be hollow and the initial sweetness will turn to ash in their mouths.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 14:36

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Originally Posted by MaxNutter

it's not actually capitalism though, is it?

From dictionary.com

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an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

Capitalism is the system where things can be owned by, and invested in by an individual/corporation.

That's exactly what this is, someone bought a small brand, is investing heavily in it to make it a global brand and in turn make money. Capitalism in action, something that DY seems venomously against.

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Originally Posted by DeadYankee

No it isn't capitalism, it's a corruption of the principles of sport and as such their victories will always be hollow and the initial sweetness will turn to ash in their mouths.

Ohh that did bring a smile to my face!. absolutely classic, you should head the Fringe festival and try some stand up.

DeadYankee · 16-08-2011, 14:46

It's not a joke, it's the truth and you are complicit in it. Still if you think that this is a definition of 'sport' then that explains your confusion.

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Originally Posted by Grunge

someone bought a small brand, is investing heavily in it to make it a global brand and in turn make money. Capitalism in action.

MaxNutter · 16-08-2011, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Grunge

From dictionary.com

Capitalism is the system where things can be owned by, and invested in by an individual/corporation.

That's exactly what this is, someone bought a small brand, is investing heavily in it to make it a global brand and in turn make money. Capitalism in action, something that DY seems venomously against.

they're not trying to make money are they?
football is internationally agreed to not be the best way to make money.
City is a plaything (as Chelsea is) of an oligarch, much as an XBox might be for you and I (albeit with investment to allow for some sustainability when they lose interest).

I'm not saying there's anything fundamentally wrong with it, just that it isn't really capitalism.
Capitalism is more like saddling yourself with huge debt to make a large corporate investment, then transferring that debt to your newly acquired investment, then milking the profits for many yeas to come.

Grunge · 16-08-2011, 15:13

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Originally Posted by MaxNutter

they're not trying to make money are they?
football is internationally agreed to not be the best way to make money.
City is a plaything (as Chelsea is) of an oligarch, much as an XBox might be for you and I (albeit with investment to allow for some sustainability when they lose interest).

I'm not saying there's anything fundamentally wrong with it, just that it isn't really capitalism.
Capitalism is more like saddling yourself with huge debt to make a large corporate investment, then transferring that debt to your newly acquired investment, then milking the profits for many yeas to come.

Thats the thing, I dont see this as a "plaything" scenario at all. The owner of Man City makes big money from real estate as well as oil, By the look of it Man City was chosen specifically for the fact that there was a very large area available to regenerate around the stadium, allowing Man City to be generated in a massive global brand and to set City as the benchmark for the rest of the sporting world.

I view it as once the Etihad campus is complete, not only will the owners use the team as a bench mark, they will also be able to use the grounds and campus as marketing material for the other companies they own ( Architects, construction, sports science, media, etc etc ).

So while the team itself may only make ( in the grand scheme of things ) minor profits for the owner in the long run, the overall impact of Man City and "the project" will have quite a large world wide impact on the owners other businesses.

So is Man City a plaything, No, I dont think so. Is Man City a Massive advertising campaign for Sheikh Mansour, Abu Dhabi and the ADUG, yep probably, in which case they have a vested interest in making City the world wide brand they keep mentioning.