The Official Sky HD Thread and FAQ

[Jabbitt]

To save money, we ditched TV altogether. The kids only watch YouTube and the Mrs uses iPlayer if she needs to. All we pay Sky for is the phone line and fibre broadband.

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[The Bear]

It still irks me that we have to pay for phone lines just to get internet.

Virgin Media was installed on my street in Feb though and am looking forward to being able to get their packages.

[AdamBrunt]

I would love VM but they are not allowed in where I live

[nutter45]

Originally Posted by The Bear

It still irks me that we have to pay for phone lines just to get internet.

Virgin Media was installed on my street in Feb though and am looking forward to being able to get their packages.

I think last time I renegotiated with sky i did so without a landline being needed

[malcy]

Originally Posted by nutter45

I think last time I renegotiated with sky i did so without a landline being needed

I thought though with Sky you need a landline with someone, can’t ditch it totally, as you need the BT phone infrastructure.

My sister for years had Sky for web but kept her BT landline.

Virgin as it’s all their kit can let you ditch the phone.

[The Bear]

You can choose a landline-less install, in which your Sky box doesn't have to be connected to the telephone line. That's just for a TV package though. I doubt you can have no phone line if you take their broadband.

[nutter45]

Originally Posted by The Bear

You can choose a landline-less install, in which your Sky box doesn't have to be connected to the telephone line. That's just for a TV package though. I doubt you can have no phone line if you take their broadband.

Nope. I’ve got sky broadband and tv.

[shteve]

Originally Posted by The Bear

It still irks me that we have to pay for phone lines just to get internet.

Virgin Media was installed on my street in Feb though and am looking forward to being able to get their packages.

It's a quid a month saving to lose the landline on the 350Mb broadband, and £10 a month extra to lose the landline if you want the 1Gb broadband. VM very much want you to still have a landline.

[malcy]

Originally Posted by nutter45

Nope. I’ve got sky broadband and tv.

But do you have the BT phone landline from someone else ? You need a BT phone line in plane to get Sky broadband as that’s what it uses for the connection.

The requirement to have your Sky box connected to a phone line or pay extra dates back to the days when the phone line was needed as the return mechanism to register if you bought Box Office programming so Sky could bill you. In the old days the free box was paid out of a box office marketing budget as when you signed to Sky to get the free box you had a separate contract requiring the box to be connected to a working phone line for a year. If not you had to pay for the box. Now it’s all done online.

Also with Sky Q as with Virgin V6 and BTTV the boxes are only rented. When you stop the subscription they have to be returned or you are legally required to pay for the box. Although a BTTV box is just a YouView box so will work without subscription Sky Q and Virgin V6 boxes won’t.

[Stevie G]

Yes, I cancelled sky in the end, I have to return the box. Haven't actually used it since the football paused so I doubt we'll miss it

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[dunkle]

I’ve not had sky for years and years but mum and dad have been with them since the whole take over of BSB and the squariel

Anyway mum and dad it seems just pay what they are asked.
They also have broadband with them

seems they are paying around 105 quid a month !
For this they have sky hd and sky sports (no movies and no kids)
They don’t have a sky q box and don’t have 4K as they don’t (yet) have a 4K tv
Broadband is fibre and around 30mb in terms of speed

to me that seems a lot of money. They are even still paying for the sport at the moment

Does anyone know of a ball park figure they should be looking at / negotiating towards. Think Dad would like the Sky Q box as he often finds himself not being able to record / store enough things

they also wouldn’t want multiroom.
Thanks in advance

[Barnacle]

I pay about £45 for sky broadband, phone & tv (just regular HD & entertainment package - no Sky Q, no sports, no movies). My broadband speed is about 16MB.

I threatened to leave Sky as my monthly bill was about £60 or £70, so they lowered it to £45 (for 18 months).

[lentini]

I pay 55 quid for 80mb, Sky Q with multiroom and the basic Entertainment package

[dunkle]

As thought, seems massively overspending on it
Seems a sky q box would cost them 200 quid as well

Remember now what I left

[nutter45]

Originally Posted by malcy

But do you have the BT phone landline from someone else ? You need a BT phone line in plane to get Sky broadband as that’s what it uses for the connection.

The requirement to have your Sky box connected to a phone line or pay extra dates back to the days when the phone line was needed as the return mechanism to register if you bought Box Office programming so Sky could bill you. In the old days the free box was paid out of a box office marketing budget as when you signed to Sky to get the free box you had a separate contract requiring the box to be connected to a working phone line for a year. If not you had to pay for the box. Now it’s all done online.

Also with Sky Q as with Virgin V6 and BTTV the boxes are only rented. When you stop the subscription they have to be returned or you are legally required to pay for the box. Although a BTTV box is just a YouView box so will work without subscription Sky Q and Virgin V6 boxes won’t.

I guess the price may hidden in there but i pay £29 for broadband superfast and £31 for multiscreen sky q with box sets and cinema (sports on pause).

There’s no separate phone line bill anywhere (used to be with Sky til last renewal). Line rental shows as free on my Sky.

[dunkle]

Managed to get hold of their most recent bill

Sky entertainment 24.00
Sky sports. Complete pack 18.00
Sky sports HD 2.00
Sky HD 8.00
Sky+ Free

Sky Line Rental 18.99
Sky talk anytime extra 10.00
1571 voicemail 2.00
Sky wifi free
Sky fibre unlimited 24.00

104.99

[lentini]

Originally Posted by nutter45

I guess the price may hidden in there but i pay £29 for broadband superfast and £31 for multiscreen sky q with box sets and cinema (sports on pause).

There’s no separate phone line bill anywhere (used to be with Sky til last renewal). Line rental shows as free on my Sky.

Line rental is included in your broadband price

[jockosjungle]

Originally Posted by dunkle

Managed to get hold of their most recent bill

Sky entertainment 24.00
Sky sports. Complete pack 18.00
Sky sports HD 2.00
Sky HD 8.00
Sky+ Free

Sky Line Rental 18.99
Sky talk anytime extra 10.00
1571 voicemail 2.00
Sky wifi free
Sky fibre unlimited 24.00

104.99

They're probably struggling on with an ancient box that barely works as well, and an ancient router.

Seriously if you've got parents, it's well worth giving them a massive audit of their bills.

I reckon I've saved my parents about £5000 in the last few years. Paying £20 a month to keep the worlds oldest washing machine going (paid about £2400 over 20 years), £500 a year for home insurance for god knows how long, broadband £60 a month.

[dunkle]

Cheers for all the help
Mum called, just under 30 quid a month saved plus skyq install all included plus sports frozen for now. She happy with that.
Thanks

[AdamBrunt]

Originally Posted by dunkle

Cheers for all the help
Mum called, just under 30 quid a month saved plus skyq install all included plus sports frozen for now. She happy with that.
Thanks

Did they get the SkyQ box for free ?