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Old 09-11-2005, 18:57   #1
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**The Official Nikon D50/D70/D70s/D200 Thread Part 3**

In light of some fancying, desiring, lusting after the new D200 it seemed a good time to start a new thread with the D200 catered for.

I'll start by noting that today sees the D200 appearing on eBay for £990 (Hong Kong).....
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I'll start by noting that today sees the D200 appearing on eBay for £990 (Hong Kong).....
yeah right, like I'm going to give some blokey in HK 960 sheets by the end of November for him to start shipping by the end of the following month.

I think I'll at least wait until my "Mint condish kidney for sale" auction finishes before committing.
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Good Ebay price - only a few quid higher than the Japanese price here.

As to the D200, well it looks all very nice on paper, but there are too many issues up in the air for me - I may well wait a few months (or won't get it at all if the AF isn't improved)

Interestingly the new D2x firmware update appears to fix AF and ISO noise issues - I wonder if Nikon learned anything from D200 development and "retro-fitted" it by firmware?

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Interestingly the new D2x firmware update appears to fix AF and ISO noise issues - I wonder if Nikon learned anything from D200 development and "retro-fitted" it by firmware?
If that's the case, I wonder how much the electronics of the D200 match the D2x?
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If that's the case, I wonder how much the electronics of the D200 match the D2x?
I'm not sure - the D200 doesn't feel like a D2x to me from the specs, but it doesn't feel like a D70 either!

Interesting thread here about D200 vs D2x...

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID202/236.html
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Sample images from the 18-200mm here http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/Nik....shtml#Gallery

Looks like a winner.
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Looks very decent indeed.
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OK, so what lenses would everyone like to see released by Nikon?

I'd like -

AF-S VRII 70-200 f/4G IF-ED

Filter thread 67 to 72mm
Diameter around 70-75mm
Length around 170mm
Weight around 650g
9 aperture blades ( rounded )
Nikon price around £600

This would compete with the Canon 70-200 f4 and would probably fly off the shelves to people who don't want the bulk and expense of the 70-200 f2.8 but want better quality, constant aperture, VR & AF-S over the 70-300 lenses but don't want an all in one solution of the 18-200.
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So who wants a D200 NEF to play with?....
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So who wants a D200 NEF to play with?....
I've already got it
& had a quick look in Picture Project 1.61 this morning
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NC 4.4 needed though...bum
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If you look at the Exif for it, it shows it has already been through Capture 4.4, so it isn't 'fresh' from the camera.

You can get a good look at it in Picture Project 1.61 though ....
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OK, so what lenses would everyone like to see released by Nikon?
In the absence of some new technology that would make a 200 or 300mm f/2.8 prime a quarter of the price ...

AF-S VR 200mm f/4 IF-ED
AF-S VR 300mm f/4 IF-ED

At f/4 the hope is it's much cheaper than the f/2.8 equivalent but the VR makes up for it a little (still not much use for low light sports, but at least more stationary objects could be shot in low light hand held. Maybe okay for wildlife and possibly air shows given the predictability of aircraft).

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AF-S VR 200mm f/4 IF-ED
AF-S VR 300mm f/4 IF-ED
Apparently the existing 300mm f4 is a damn good lens. Now, if they could only shoehorn VR II into it ...

Looking at the 18-200mm price, I'm wondering if VR II is cheaper to implement ( as well as being technically superior ). If so, it would be very nice to see an accelerated release of VR lenses without large price increases.

Obviously it not as straightforward as lobbing in some circuitry, motors and sensors, the element group(s) the VR is built around has to be suitable, so I guess there would have to be at least some optical redesign.
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I definately like the look of the 18-200 as a walkabout - I don't see it as a replacement for my fast zooms as it won't be in the same class - the Sigma 70-200 is guaranteed to blow it away - but as an all in one it'll be very nice.

I picked up a D50 + Tamron 18-200 for a mate as they are dirt cheap over here (and naturally had a play!) and the Tammy is actually a damn fine lens and I suspect the Nikkor will be even better. I was very surprised by how good a 3rd party 10x zoom could be tbh!
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OK, so what lenses would everyone like to see released by Nikon?

I'd like -

AF-S VRII 70-200 f/4G IF-ED

Filter thread 67 to 72mm
Diameter around 70-75mm
Length around 170mm
Weight around 650g
9 aperture blades ( rounded )
Nikon price around £600

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I'd buy it! Would like 77mm filters though just so I can use my C-Pol II without step-ups. Actually the 70-200 f/2.8 VR really isn't that big - OK I'm used to big lens so my defination of "big" may be different to yours (fnarr!) but I've been eying it up and if I didn't already have the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 I'd bought it for sure..
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Well there's quite a nice little price war for the D200 going on at the moment

Just ordered mine for 172,189.00 JPY
Japan Yen = 837.158 GBP!!

http://www.kakaku.com/sku/ShopView.a...ey=00501610928

And its right around the corner from me as well!

Wasn't totally sure I'd get one (as the AF is the only reason for me to upgrade) but as under £850 notes seems rude not too
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Well there's quite a nice little price war for the D200 going on at the moment

Just ordered mine for 172,189.00 JPY
Japan Yen = 837.158 GBP!!


Nice one!

You reckon you'll be there long enough to get it? Weren't you supposed to be returning a few days before? I suppose a mystery stomach bug could result in a few days delay
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