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Old 07-12-2004, 12:30   #81
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As you posted above it's a money issue, Tito is one of the highest paid fighters and they cant afford to have him in the undercard and then have to pay another 2 big earners to be a main event. For example, Ken Shamrock has been told he can go and have a fight in Japan as the UFC cant afford to use him until May and he doesn't want that big a layoff, they have the Tito/Vitor main event on the February show and Couture/Liddell fighting in the April show. Interesting interview Ken gave about this here
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As you posted above it's a money issue, Tito is one of the highest paid fighters and they cant afford to have him in the undercard and then have to pay another 2 big earners to be a main event. For example, Ken Shamrock has been told he can go and have a fight in Japan as the UFC cant afford to use him until May and he doesn't want that big a layoff, they have the Tito/Vitor main event on the February show and Couture/Liddell fighting in the April show. Interesting interview Ken gave about this here

But the problem is what if he wins (especially in a controversial manner, e.g. Belfort vs Couture), and then can't agree a new deal? Not only are you losing the winner of your last main event, but you're also left with the guy who lost to him.

I still think he's worth more to potentially put over an up and coming talent who they can use further down the road. I wouldn't put him against someone who you have big plans for (as anything can happen). But I'd definitely give him to someone who has the potential for causing an upset, and making a name for themself.
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Have only seen this a couple of times, but it was just strict kickboxing/Muay Thai (with no grappling) which I am not really interested in, does it also have true MMA fights like those in Pride/UFC?
I've only seen K1 on it so far - next week is kick boxing as well I think.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:57   #84
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My brother's after the UFC 47 and 48 DVD's. Any ideas where I can pick them up online, with fast de1livery if possible?

Cheers...

EDIT: Ignore me, didn't realise Amazon.com sell them

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Old 12-12-2004, 15:28   #85
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My brother's after the UFC 47 and 48 DVD's. Any ideas where I can pick them up online, with fast de1livery if possible?

Cheers...

EDIT: Ignore me, didn't realise Amazon.com sell them
www.playusa.com have them for £11.99
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Old 29-12-2004, 19:05   #86
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Wow!! news regarding Pride Shockwave 31/12- Sakuraba has pulled out of the fight with Silva due to injury and has been replaced by Mark Hunt, who usually fights at around 50lb more!! Card in full below, looking forward to the top 6 fights in particular, excellent card.

1. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
2. Hidehiko Yoshida vs. Rulon Gardner
3. Wanderlei Silva vs. Mark Hunt
4. Dan Henderson vs. Yuki Kondo
5. Takanori Gomi vs. Jens Pulver
6. Mirko Cro Cop vs. Kevin Randleman
7. Makoto Takimoto vs. Henry “Sentoryu” Miller
8. Stefan Leko vs. Ikuhisa Minowa
9. Paolo “Giant” Silva vs. Choi Mu Bae
10. Yoji Anjo vs. Ryan Gracie

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Old 29-12-2004, 19:16   #87
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would have preffered silva vs kharitanov myself.still looks like a superb card though

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Old 29-12-2004, 19:19   #88
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would have preffered silva vs kharitanov myself.still looks like a superb card though
They had less than a weeks notice, so lucky to get anyone decent.
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i wouldnt exactly call hunt decent after his performance against bobbish
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i wouldnt exactly call hunt decent after his performance against bobbish
LOL, dont get me wrong, I dont really rate him either, but he is an experienced fighter with a good record in k-1 (also he did beat Bobish-although I accept it wasn't a good performance and put up a decent fight against Yoshida), plus he normally fights at about 40-50lbs heavier than Wandy so it has the potential to be an interesting fight. With less than a weeks notice he could have been fighting some rookie unknown with only a couple of fights to his name.

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Old 29-12-2004, 23:46   #91
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LOL, dont get me wrong, I dont really rate him either, but he is an experienced fighter with a good record in k-1 (also he did beat Bobish-although I accept it wasn't a good performance and put up a decent fight against Yoshida), plus he normally fights at about 40-50lbs heavier than Wandy so it has the potential to be an interesting fight. With less than a weeks notice he could have been fighting some rookie unknown with only a couple of fights to his name.


I'd agree with that. Hunt lost his first fight after coming from K1 to Pride, but anyone who thinks the two sports are the same thing is kidding themselves. Since then, Hunt has been training extensively in the new style, and is going to be much more difficult to beat. Add to that the weight difference, and we could have a very competitive fight. Early reports have said that Silva will have to submit him to win, as he just isn't going to knock Hunt out. Considering that Silva is a heavy hitter, this could be another disadvantage for him. I still expect him to win, though, as he think he is pound for pound the best fighter in the world (though don't quote me to Fedor ).

Sakuraba's next big fight will hopefully be a grudge match next year against Tamura (who used to bully Sakuraba when they were both starting out). Sakuraba wants the fight, but Tamura is so far pulling what is commonly known as a "Gracie" (i.e. knowing that you're no longer as good as you were 10 years ago, so keep stalling until you either get weak opponents, or until the rules are changed in such a way that you can sneak out a draw).

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Old 30-12-2004, 08:43   #92
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I'd agree with that. Hunt lost his first fight after coming from K1 to Pride, but anyone who thinks the two sports are the same thing is kidding themselves. Since then, Hunt has been training extensively in the new style, and is going to be much more difficult to beat. Add to that the weight difference, and we could have a very competitive fight. Early reports have said that Silva will have to submit him to win, as he just isn't going to knock Hunt out. Considering that Silva is a heavy hitter, this could be another disadvantage for him. I still expect him to win, though, as he think he is pound for pound the best fighter in the world (though don't quote me to Fedor ).

Sakuraba's next big fight will hopefully be a grudge match next year against Tamura (who used to bully Sakuraba when they were both starting out). Sakuraba wants the fight, but Tamura is so far pulling what is commonly known as a "Gracie" (i.e. knowing that you're no longer as good as you were 10 years ago, so keep stalling until you either get weak opponents, or until the rules are changed in such a way that you can sneak out a draw).

very good points.there is a huge difference between k1 and mma.i think silva will win by taking hunt down and unleashing evil soccer kicks to hunts head.

shame they couldnt get randy coture to fight wandy.would love to see that fight next year but doubt it will ever happen

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Does anyone know when Shockwave is airing on US TV, I would look up the MMA forums, but want to avoid spoilers?


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shame they couldnt get randy coture to fight wandy.would love to see that fight next year but doubt it will ever happen
I think the odds are against it, but Pride is having a MW tournament later in the year and its not totally impossible that Randy would enter it like Chuck did in 2003. Both men want to fight and have run out of opponents in their own organisations. If it doesn't happen next year it will never happen- Couture is amazing, but cant have too many years left in him.
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Does anyone know when Shockwave is airing on US TV, I would look up the MMA forums, but want to avoid spoilers?
I believe Shockwave is being shown this Sunday evening on US PPV.
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I believe Shockwave is being shown this Sunday evening on US PPV.
Thanks Voodoo.

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the results are in........

http://www.pridefc.com/pride2004/06_results.htm

at least one big upset IMHO
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Just watched a few of the matches: -












Still looking forward to at least 3 more matches, but they have their work cut out to be the match of the night

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Old 04-01-2005, 19:04   #98
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dmb6473a agree with everything you said mate esp silva vs hunt
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Some views on the event, very good show over all, except for too many weak fighters in the bottom few fights.

1. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira


2. Hidehiko Yoshida vs. Rulon Gardner


3. Wanderlei Silva vs. Mark Hunt


4. Dan Henderson vs. Yuki Kondo


5. Takanori Gomi vs. Jens Pulver


6. Mirko Cro Cop vs. Kevin Randleman


9. Paolo “Giant” Silva vs. Choi Mu Bae
10. Yoji Anjo vs. Ryan Gracie
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Am pretty new to this MMA but I thought it was a really good event.



Other than that,



I thought it was pretty good:

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