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Old 12-03-2018, 13:58   #1441
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I think you can take "any faux posh food chain which has overextended itself" into that category, seems to be such places everywhere, competing against each other for the £15 pizza market
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Old 12-03-2018, 15:11   #1442
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Yep. Pizza Express should be fine. But there are loads of others that could feel the pinch soon.
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Old 12-03-2018, 17:01   #1443
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It doesn't seem that hard to me but I guess I'm not an executive at a chain restaurant. It seems obvious that there isn't an unlimited amount of people prepared to pay a small fortune to eat an expensive pizza.

I'd have also thought that you only needed to look at Warrington to know that certain towns are less likely to support such extravagance.
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Old 12-03-2018, 18:02   #1444
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Bella pasta is in trouble too. Always wondered who went to Bella pasta when there is loads of better Italian restaurants in every city centre.

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Old 12-03-2018, 20:33   #1445
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Bella Pasta used to be where you took a date at Uni, with a 50% off voucher, as it was one up from Pizza Hut, amazed they are still going
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Old 12-03-2018, 20:48   #1446
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Bella pasta is in trouble too. Always wondered who went to Bella pasta when there is loads of better Italian restaurants in every city centre.

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Bella Pasta used to be where you took a date at Uni, with a 50% off voucher, as it was one up from Pizza Hut, amazed they are still going
Bella Pasta are owned by Cafe Rouge, so as posted earlier whole group has financial problems as with many other restaurant chains.
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Old 12-03-2018, 22:53   #1447
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Carluccio's has called in accountants KPMG to advise on possible strategies to cut costs

Not looking good for Italian restaurants in the UK it is?
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Old 13-03-2018, 06:49   #1448
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We will only need British restaurants after Brexit.
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Old 13-03-2018, 06:56   #1449
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I also not convinced by long term health of Pizza Express.

I guess with Chinese owners they arenít as desperate for profit as most of the other chains owned by private equity.

Only eat there with a voucher which seem to be offered every week. They also do Clubcard boost although Tesco have reduced that from 4x to 3x recently.
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Old 13-03-2018, 07:45   #1450
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Last time I went into Pizza Express, they asked for my voucher by default. I didn't have one and got a smirk from the waitress.
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Old 13-03-2018, 09:44   #1451
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Pizza express I donít see a great future for. Itís too expensive for what it is, and without a voucher itís ridiculous.

Just sell the bloody things for 1 price.
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Pizza express will be fine. It's always packed when I go. Even with vouchers they'll have a good mark up.
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The problem for it and all the others is the ones where they are not packed in. I'd guess any restaurant can still make money at 50% off though.
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It's not the food. Drinks are never in the offers and they have a healthy mark up.

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Old 13-03-2018, 16:11   #1455
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Bella pasta is in trouble too. Always wondered who went to Bella pasta when there is loads of better Italian restaurants in every city centre.
We had a big work away day in Leeds a few weeks ago and at the end of the day a group of people up from London went out for a meal to the Bella Italia (that's its name now) because they had a voucher. Given the amount of great places to eat in Leeds I really couldn't understand why anyone would go there out of choice.

Fortunately me and a couple of others persuaded another group of people not to go there and they went to Tharavadu instead.

The Guardian had a decent piece about the problems these chains are having.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...ron-struggling

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Old 13-03-2018, 16:37   #1456
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Interesting read, fully see where it's coming from. I notice that the Beefeater people (Whitbread) own a bunch of different chains and seem to be constantly transferring them to whatever is flavour of the month, which seems to be Brewers Fayre as far as I can tell. Maybe keep them going a little and having a captive audience at Premier Inns.

In all honesty I have two kids, we eat almost exclusively at the Brewers Fayre.
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Old 13-03-2018, 22:57   #1457
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In all honesty I have two kids, we eat almost exclusively at the Brewers Fayre.
Can't you cook?
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:37   #1458
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LOL i meant when we occassionally eat out. It's got a soft play
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Old 14-03-2018, 16:02   #1460
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I guess it really was on its backside, someone can't even take the few stores who are making some money. Maybe none of them were. I guess just a nail in the coffin, for out of town stores.

I saw Smyths was opening a new store in Preston though so they're doing OK
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