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Old 13-11-2017, 18:05   #61
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If you stream video at 8k 60fps HDR... even youtube video compression doesn't look half bad... :P

Can someone explain to me how that works? I've only got a HD screen and that looks absolutely phenomenal!
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Old 13-11-2017, 19:57   #62
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That is the best footage I have seen on my 1080p monitor
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That is the best footage I have seen on my 1080p monitor
How does it compare to Pornhub?
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Old 13-11-2017, 22:08   #64
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Can someone explain to me how that works? I've only got a HD screen and that looks absolutely phenomenal!
You're still benefitting from the added detail. Most 1080p footage online isn't great quality despite strictly speaking being 1080p.

I watched a DVD a few weeks ago on my 1080p plasma TV and it looked pretty good. The dreadful quality of SD TV channels had made me forget that DVDs don't have to look like garbage.

I guess this video is kind of the reverse of that. Or something.
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Old 13-11-2017, 22:50   #65
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That makes me want to go and buy a 4K TV.
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Old 14-11-2017, 12:52   #66
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Can someone explain to me how that works? I've only got a HD screen and that looks absolutely phenomenal!
Basically everything else you have been watching is a lower quality source. Saying it's HD is just a headline figure of how many pixels there are. There are all sorts of other factors that the picture quality will depend on - the quality of the camera, the quality of any editing/colour correction, the original light levels, the amount of compression applied etc etc. I have seen totally uncompressed HD video on a professional studio display and it looks better than what you get out of most TVs.

It was the same with VHS. When I first got a DVD player I copied a DVD to VHS on my fairly high end and well maintained VHS recorder and I was quite impressed with the results. It wasn't a patch on DVD quality but it was certainly far better than all the pre-recorded films I had been watching.
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Yes I can remember I was able to transfer DVDs to a S-VHS recorder (but to VHS tape) that I had and the picture quality was infinitely better than a shop bought VHS of the same film.
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Old 14-11-2017, 13:48   #68
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Can someone explain to me how that works? I've only got a HD screen and that looks absolutely phenomenal!
All video compression is the throwing out of data... if you are watching 1080p.. the data is being thrown out of the 1080 pixels. With this, the data that's being thrown out at the 8k scale is so small, it's not physically visible at 1080 scale.. so all your 1080 pixels is basically pure and uncompressed..

The first bits of data thrown out with video compression, even 4K HDR... is the colour information. Here.. you are using every single pixel of your 1920x1080 display getting the equivalent of uncompressed colour (1080p 4:4:4) that the original camera sensor output.

Same as showing a nice SLR camera still on your computer screen.. they look nicer than video frames..
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A Higher bit-rate or kbps will result in a higher quality picture..

Thats what I remember from converting/capturung alot of video by XVID and Virtualdub
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This looks horrible, like the phony smooth motion mode on a TV.
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It's 60fps... so not phony but 'actually smooth' motion. Have you not seen 60fps video before?

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I have not. I've seen 50 and felt the same way about that. I want the smooth motion mode was phony. I just don't like it!
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Old 16-11-2017, 17:00   #74
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That makes me want to go and buy a 4K TV.
Had the opposite effect on me. If a 1080 panel can look that good, why do I need to upgrade it? Input sources however...
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Had the opposite effect on me. If a 1080 panel can look that good, why do I need to upgrade it? Input sources however...
Because then it'll look EVEN BETTER.

OK I'm joking, kind of. Depending on the size of the screen and seating distance the extra resolution may not matter that much.

However HDR and BT. 2020 makes a huge difference. The wider colour gamut is really apparent. Swapping between a standard Blu-ray and a uhd shows how much it helps.
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With 4K it's the HDR that you notice more than the resolution upgrade
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With 4K it's the HDR that you notice more than the resolution upgrade
True! I recently got a Sony Bravia 32" TV in a sale that has HDR but is a regular HD panel and not 4K (I can't physically fit a 40 or 43" 4K panel in my living room) the difference HDR makes in supported Youtube Content, Netflix and Gaming is astounding.
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Bought a 4k HDR TV last year and a 4k Blu Ray player recently in the sales, it came with 4K discs of The Revenant, The Martian & Independence Day which wasn't a bad deal. Martian was substituted for a blu ray but a few calls to Samsung sorted that out....

I've been using a PS4 Pro until now which has done a good job, wasn't convinced it was worth the "upgrade", The Revenant looked great in 4k but not a big leap, Dunkirk arrived today which looks incredible!!!!

HDR is the difference, also noticing how good the colours are over the PS4 Pro on standard Blu rays.
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