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Old 12-10-2017, 12:43   #1
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Films where you felt sorry for the antagonist

These days the difference between the good and bad guys in movies is bit of a grey area and subject to the viewer's perspective to some extent. With that in mind, which film "villain" did you feel really sorry for what happened to him/her?

For me it will always be Roy Batty.
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Old 12-10-2017, 15:41   #2
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Probably the empire in star wars..legitimate, democratically elected leaders of the galaxy dealing with religious terrorists.

Empire spends trillions in tax payers money on military deterrent, then it's blown up by said religious fanatics.

Or Mr Freeze

or Khan Noonien Singh

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Always felt sorry for the Day of the Jackal, was willing him to succeed
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Thomas Haden Church did a good job with Sandman.

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Dr Octopus in spider man 2.

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Always felt sorry for the Day of the Jackal, was willing him to succeed
Agreed.More so in the book where is ultra-meticulous planning deserved to succeed. I have imagined how a successful Jackal would have got rid of the gun and escaped into the (by then) scattering crowd.
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The Phantom of the Opera. Puts in all the hard groundwork and then she still runs off with some prettyboy.
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Ed Harris's character in The Rock. He was only doing what he thought was right to get justice for his men.
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Thelma & Louise..
If you mean those two themselves, they are really protagonists who are forced by circumstances to do "bad" things. Of course I feel sorry for them but they are not really "traditional" baddies.
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oh and Walter Peck. Just a guy, doing his job the best he can.
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oh and Walter Peck. Just a guy, doing his job the best he can.
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If you mean those two themselves, they are really protagonists who are forced by circumstances to do "bad" things. Of course I feel sorry for them but they are not really "traditional" baddies.
Agreed but you could say that about Ed Harris in the Rock as well.

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A great example IMO of where the line between the "good guy" and "bad guy" is blurred is the excellent Runaway Train. I really felt sorry for the supposed villain Manny Mannheim (superbly played by Jon Voight) in the incredibly well filmed final moments.
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I wanted Mr. Pink to escape with the diamonds and lead a happy life somewhere.
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I wanted Mr. Pink to escape with the diamonds and lead a happy life somewhere.
Long time since I saw the film but I seem to recall that Pink (Steve Buscemi) does get away on his own with the loot. Or does he get captured?
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You see him leave with the diamonds, but in the background later you can hear police shouting and gunshots - I always assumed he goes down guns blazing.
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You see him leave with the diamonds, but in the background later you can hear police shouting and gunshots - I always assumed he goes down guns blazing.
I don't think so. Pink goes out of the door more than a minute before the police are heard. That would mean that he got away; in a full minute he would have got far enough from the barn so as not to be heard by us if he had been accosted further afield. If he had been stopped just as he tried to get away from the scene, we would have heard the commotion a lot sooner.

The police were shouting at White (Keitel) who by then was holding the gun to Orange's(Roth) head and willing himself to shoot. By the sounds, we can assume that White shot Orange a fraction of a second before he was himself shot by the police; White is shown toppling backwards.
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Neil, in Heat. Really wanted him to get away.
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