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Old 17-01-2007, 09:03   #1
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Thumbs up George R R Martin's "Game of Thrones" - **No book spoilers**

Just when you thought Preacher coming to HBO was the best TV news EVER .... along comes the news that HBO have confirmed they are working on bringing the superb "A Song of Ice & Fire" novels to our TV screens.

From an article in Variety....

HBO has acquired the rights to turn George R.R. Martin's bestselling fantasy series "A Song of Fire and Ice" into a dramatic series to be written and exec produced by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
"Fire" is the first TV project for Benioff ("Troy") and Weiss ("Halo") and will shoot in Europe or New Zealand. Benioff and Weiss will write every episode of each season together save one, which the author (a former TV writer) will script.

The series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and the intention is for each novel (they average 1,000 pages each) to fuel a season's worth of episodes. Martin has nearly finished the fifth installment, but won't complete the seven-book cycle until 2011.

The author will co-exec produce the series along with Management 360's Guymon Casady and Created By's Vince Gerardis.

Martin's series has drawn comparisons to J.R.R. Tolkien, because both are period epics set in imagined lands. But Martin has eschewed Tolkien's good-vs.-evil theme in favor of flawed characters from seven noble families.

The book has a decidedly adult bent, with sex and violence comparable to series like "Rome" and "Deadwood."

"They tried for 50 years to make 'Lord of the Rings' as one movie before Peter Jackson found success making three," Martin said. "My books are bigger and more complicated, and would require 18 movies. Otherwise, you'd have to choose one or two characters."


Forget about Lord of the Rings, this is proper Adult Fantasy!

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Old 17-01-2007, 09:11   #2
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No way.

No ******* way.

This is incredible news

Martin is my favourite author and his series simply blows the competition out of the water. I'm so glad it's on HBO...can't imagine how awful it would be on Fox. Tyrion would be Jack Bauerised, and say "Damn it" every other minute.

There was rumour of Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" being made into a miniseries but it's hit 2007 and there's no word on whether the production has been greenlit.
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Old 17-01-2007, 09:26   #3
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I had to ask someone here in work to pinch me as I thought I was dreaming this morning when I found the article. It's like a dream come true. Preacher & this on HBO..... I can now die a happy man.
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Old 17-01-2007, 11:16   #4
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WOW, amazing news.

This should be great
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Old 17-01-2007, 11:18   #5
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There was rumour of Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" being made into a miniseries but it's hit 2007 and there's no word on whether the production has been greenlit.
Christ I hope not, they make Eragon look like high literature unless you're an Ayn Rand fetishist with a penchant for S&M and long speeches.
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Old 17-01-2007, 12:11   #6
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Man, I'd have been chuffed if ANYONE did this, but HBO?!?! Fantastic.

When's it out? I want to see it now!
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Old 17-01-2007, 12:20   #7
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Christ I hope not, they make Eragon look like high literature unless you're an Ayn Rand fetishist with a penchant for S&M and long speeches.
I actually like Goodkind's books - the first three were excellent, the fifth was awful, and the others are somewhat middling. If you can get past the author's preachy philosophy, they are quite an enjoyable read. Details on the TV miniseries:

http://www.prophets-inc.com/news/
http://www.mania.com/51855.html
http://www.cinemablend.com/televisio...To-TV-635.html
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If it's true to the novels, HBO really is the only place this could be made properly. I'm sure the incest & gory violence will remain although I suspect Daenerys will be a few years older, as all that early under-age sex she has in the first book would get the show shutdown!
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Will be interesting to see what they do with the ages of the characters, as there are a lot of kids in the story - Rob's 16, if I remember correctly? Arya is a big character and is meant to be what, twelve?
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Rob is 15

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And I've just noticed in the OP that it mentions one of the writers worked on Troy.


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Great news but lets hope they don't get the typical HBO treatment of 2 or 3 seasons and then get dropped because 'they cost too much to produce'.

Seems as soon as they start producing a show that requires specialist sets (i.e. they can't shoot it on city streets like Sopranos/The Wire) and realise the cost involved they drop it like a turd on fire.
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I know nothing of Preacher or Fire & Ice, but judging by the reaction here, I'm looking forward to it.

Re. HBO being the only people who could do it justice, I reckon they've been pretty **** poor over the last 2 years re. their output

They should watch out for Showtime (Weeds/Sleeper Cell and the fantastic Dexter) - not too long until they lose their "cable crown"
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Great news. One of the all time best character driven fantasy series of all time. No need for huge special effectrs either on the whole ( of course there are some scenes that will need it ), this is one that the actors will drive to success or failure.

Great news that has given me a semi already!
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Old 17-01-2007, 15:58   #14
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I bet Warwick Davis has been eagerly awaiting this to be turned into a tv-show/movie. Tyrion the dwarf is a great meaty role & he gets to have lots of sex with sexy whores.

Lets just hope Andy Millman isn't an extra in the show.
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Old 17-01-2007, 16:34   #15
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BEST NEWS EVER!
I emailed HBO around a year ago asking about this, never heard anything. I am so happy right now it's unbelievable.

These are the best books ever written.

If I recall: Rickon is 3 years old, Bran is 7, Arya is 11, Sansa is 13, Dany is 13, Jon Snow and Robb are both around 14. A lot of youth to carry heavy roles there.

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I've heard so much about George R R Martin's series, but have deliberately steered clear of it thus far. Why? After getting stuck into Jordan's 'Wheel of Time' I'm feeling thoroughly gutted that Jordan appears to have evolved his a potential masterpeice into a lumbering, lucrative business with no apparent direction and still no sight of an endgame.

It annoyed me so much (having spent several years following the story) that I swore I'd never touch another fantasy epic until the author had been buried or had at least moved onto to something else entirely.

Do any followers of 'Fire and Ice' have any idea whether Martin really will wind up the story or is he likely to string it out?

(coz if HBO *do* make it, then I've got to quickly read the darn books first!)

ta in advance.
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Just finished reading Blood and Gold the 2nd part of the 3rd book. I have to say the books so far are awesome in their story, characterisations and the ability to create an adult fantasy series with a few shocks in them. I hope the series writers/directors can keep as close to the books as possible and not turn it into some highschool teen medieval soap opera.
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I've heard so much about George R R Martin's series, but have deliberately steered clear of it thus far. Why? After getting stuck into Jordan's 'Wheel of Time' I'm feeling thoroughly gutted that Jordan appears to have evolved his a potential masterpeice into a lumbering, lucrative business with no apparent direction and still no sight of an endgame.

It annoyed me so much (having spent several years following the story) that I swore I'd never touch another fantasy epic until the author had been buried or had at least moved onto to something else entirely.

Do any followers of 'Fire and Ice' have any idea whether Martin really will wind up the story or is he likely to string it out?

(coz if HBO *do* make it, then I've got to quickly read the darn books first!)

ta in advance.
As mentioned in the OP, the series won't be done till 2011 (at least) - he has 3 more (huge) books to write but unlike Jordan, has set himself the limit of 7 for the series.

Book 5 was supposed to be done by the end of last year, on sale beginning of this - no update from his official site yet.
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As mentioned in the OP, the series won't be done till 2011 (at least) - he has 3 more (huge) books to write but unlike Jordan, has set himself the limit of 7 for the series.
Cheers, though surely HBO will bring the first series to screen before the last book is finished?
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There is definitely an end in sight for the series, according to the author at least. Since he will be working on the show with HBO there's no reason they can't start showing the series before all the books are finished.

To be honest, I would just start the books as soon as you can because they are such an enjoyable read.
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