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Old 21-02-2012, 14:00   #1
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Recommendations for good ‘international thriller’ (Tom Clancy style)

I’ve a hankering for getting into some well written thrillers – I’m thinking the Tom Clancy style thrillers – and I’m a big fan of the Jack Ryan films (particularly Red October). However, I’ve read that the most recent Clancy stuff is very below par.

I’ve got my eye on some of his earlier stuff – in particular Red Storm Rising – and was after any other authors that could be recommended?

Any guidance much appreciated – I’ve not really got any knowledge of the best rated writers in this genre

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Old 21-02-2012, 18:15   #2
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Rsr is great! Anything Tom Clancy up to the one about Russia and china I think (bear and tiger?)

Have you tried Ken Follett? Bit of a genre crossing author, a lot of ww2 thrillers, some historical so you'd need to read the blurb, the hammer of Eden was a great thriller
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Old 21-02-2012, 18:19   #3
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Red storm rising is tremendously good. I'd start there before looking at anything else.
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Old 21-02-2012, 19:30   #4
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Anyone ID something along these lines that starts with a terrorist raid on a Russian nuclear bunker or similar. Started to read it in the staff room of a prev. job and it always stuck. Def. a famous author of this ilk.
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Old 21-02-2012, 20:24   #5
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Most of the US techno thriller writers like Clancy have really gone downhill in the last 10+ years.

Clancy co-wrote Red Storm Rising with Larry Bond. Bond's early own books like Red Phoenix set in Korea and Vortex set in South Africa are similar and great. However these may now be oop.

Bond like Clancy and many others now only write the outline and get someone else to write the book. Hence why they are crap compared to the originals.

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Old 21-02-2012, 21:12   #6
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Early Clancy stuff is good - re-read Red Storm Rising a few years back, still fantastic. If you have Clancy's back-catalog to get through I'd start there. Dale Brown maybe?
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Old 21-02-2012, 22:06   #7
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Anyone ID something along these lines that starts with a terrorist raid on a Russian nuclear bunker or similar. Started to read it in the staff room of a prev. job and it always stuck. Def. a famous author of this ilk.

Is that a Duncan Falconer? ex-sbs guy who did an auto-biography and few easy to read action thrillers like Andy McNabb etc

Go old school and try Craig Thomas read years ago, but some were good

Or odd ones of Ranulph Fiennes - The Feather Men or The Sett which both hint at been true stories
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Old 22-02-2012, 08:46   #8
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Most of the US techno thriller writers like Clancy have really gone downhill in the last 10+ years.
I take it that includes Clancy's series, like Op-Centre, Net Force etc?
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Old 22-02-2012, 10:01   #9
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The mitch rapp novels by vince flynn are enjoyable enough and probably closest to clancy than most others

Just finished the latest clancy hardback and did enjoy that

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Old 22-02-2012, 11:21   #10
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Bit of a curveball, but you could have a look at Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cryptonomico.../dp/0099410672

It's set in WWII and present day and revolves around cryptography and Alan Turing.
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Old 22-02-2012, 17:51   #11
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I take it that includes Clancy's series, like Op-Centre, Net Force etc?
They were all co-written so not as good as original Clancy. I guess he has now got to the age where he does not care someone else is writing with his main characters.

If you want that style I have liked James Barrington. However his have recently gone downhill.

Most authors do worsen when it becomes a business churning out a book a year. For virtually every author their early books are the best.
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Anyone ID something along these lines that starts with a terrorist raid on a Russian nuclear bunker or similar. Started to read it in the staff room of a prev. job and it always stuck. Def. a famous author of this ilk.
One of the Clancy books begins with a terrorist raid on a Russian oil facility, if that could have been what you were thinking. Pretty sure it's Red Storm Rising, which is excellent.
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Old 02-03-2012, 16:18   #13
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One of the Clancy books begins with a terrorist raid on a Russian oil facility, if that could have been what you were thinking. Pretty sure it's Red Storm Rising, which is excellent.
That's the fella. :
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Old 02-03-2012, 19:34   #14
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Vince Flynn
Brad Thor
"Tom Clancy" (Jack Ryan Jr Ghost Written by others)
Duncan Falconer
Robert Ludlum Covert One Series
W.E.B Griffin Presidential Agent
Patrick Robinson

I would say the Vince and Brad books are the best of the above list, Brad Thor has lots of intelligence contacts and Spec Ops contacts so his books are very "real", Vince Flynn was an advisor on 24 (Day 5) and was investigated by the CIA as his books hit too close to home at one point.
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I'm also a huge fan of the early Tom Clancy. Red Storm is most probably my favourite book, read it multiple times, it is just epic.
My recommendation for similar is Eric L Harry, superb 'techno' thrillers. Wish this man would write more books!
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:25   #16
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I'd guess this one is quite like Tom Clancy:




As a real suggestion: Frederick Forsyth can be great for this sort of thing:
The Forth Protocol
The Odessa File
The Day of the Jackal
The Devil's Alternative

Probably the first is the only proper spy type one there. He's done other international espionage ones but they never really quite got going for me.

You might also like some of Desmond Bagley's stuff, particularly books like The High Fortress or The Golden Keel. Not espionage at all but still good thrillers.
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Old 13-04-2012, 22:41   #17
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Sad thing is, I could actually see myself buying Tom Clancy's Tom Clancy's End War at an airport WH Smiths one day.
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the book was better than the game was!
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I'd guess this one is quite like Tom Clancy:




As a real suggestion: Frederick Forsyth can be great for this sort of thing:
The Forth ProtocolThe Odessa File
The Day of the Jackal
The Devil's Alternative

Probably the first is the only proper spy type one there. He's done other international espionage ones but they never really quite got going for me.

You might also like some of Desmond Bagley's stuff, particularly books like The High Fortress or The Golden Keel. Not espionage at all but still good thrillers.

Is the Forth Protocol the one set in Scotland ?

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