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Old 19-07-2019, 11:49   #1
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Britbox ??? Why ?

So this new streaming collaboration between the BBC and ITV which is supposedly going to rival Netflix.

Why do we need another service, costing £6 per month, to get what I am already getting - as a license fee payer - for 'free' via iPlayer and ITV Hub ?
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So this new streaming collaboration between the BBC and ITV which is supposedly going to rival Netflix.

Why do we need another service, costing £6 per month, to get what I am already getting - as a license fee payer - for 'free' via iPlayer and ITV Hub ?

Just a guess, this will be the end of the long term versions of those services.
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Old 19-07-2019, 12:18   #3
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But it won't though, as they're still trying to get approval from Ofcom to extend iPlayer "retention" to a year for most stuff.
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But EVERYTHING else will be pay to watch
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Old 19-07-2019, 12:26   #5
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So this new streaming collaboration between the BBC and ITV which is supposedly going to rival Netflix.

Why do we need another service, costing £6 per month, to get what I am already getting - as a license fee payer - for 'free' via iPlayer and ITV Hub ?


it's for the US and Canada. But keep ranting if it helps
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Old 19-07-2019, 12:38   #6
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But it won't though, as they're still trying to get approval from Ofcom to extend iPlayer "retention" to a year for most stuff.
Is that specifically for a free version of the iplayer? Or is it part of this? No idea

I guess there is lots of TV out there, years of stuff, Dr Who and the like.

Whether we should be paying for stuff we've already paid for, it's as if the BBC wants to become a subscription service.
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it's for the US and Canada. But keep ranting if it helps

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In February 2019, it was announced that Britbox would be launched in the UK later in the year as a rival to Netflix.[13] Journalist Mark Lawson likened the proposed project to BBC Worldwide's previous failed platform, Project Kangaroo, and described it as "bizarre" and "hugely risky".[14] In March 2019, Channel 4 confirmed interest in collaborating with the BBC and ITV. [15] Currently, McMafia, Last Tango in Halifax, Les Misérables and the sitcom Gavin & Stacey have been confirmed to be available on the UK version.[15]

In July 2019, the BBC and ITV announced they signed an agreement to launch BritBox in the UK in the last quarter of 2019.
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I can see this being a massive failure. For some reason BBC/ITV think they'll get subscribers in the low millions!!!
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Nope
fair enough, I stand corrected.

So in theory, you could use britbox and not buy a tv license.

So all these people who kept talking about getting rid of the TV license as they didn't watch most stuff on the BBC, here it comes...
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If you're happy watching stuff over a year old? Unless I'm not reading the article correctly.
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I can see this being a massive failure. For some reason BBC/ITV think they'll get subscribers in the low millions!!!

The problem is we’re not a hoarder of TV shows anymore. Once upon a time people would get there blank E180’s and tape shows to keep. The DVD era gave us the Boxset and people stopped recording. Now people aren’t even buying them anymore* and rely on iPlayer etc. If they take long term shows from it then they have a captive audience.

* not me however, I still buy.
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I guess I'm just getting old and don't get the whole rent everything rather than buy. At least you have the choice but all of these streaming services in a way are like gym memberships, you're paying every month whether you use it or not. I may go months without buying any discs.
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I think it's a different attitude for different people. I was explaining that Prime gave me some free music, so guy at work (who loves CDs) started quizzing me did it have this odd thing or that, naturally it didn't. Well what if you wanted to listen to this specific album?

Well naturally you cannot, you listen to something else that is there.

Are we gonna get to a point soon where people simply don't watch live TV outside of a major sports broadcast?

You've got so much choice nowadays on the streaming services, people just watch what they've got and can easily look to sack off a tv licence altogether.

They might as well try and get a fiver out of these people.

I guess that the people who refuse to pay £12 for a TV licence are more than happy to subscribe to about 5 different streaming services.
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We're not far off, I think once the baby goomers and gen X people have died out that will probably be the end of "over the air" as we know it and everything bar sports will be on demand.
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Aside from some sport I don't think I've watched anything live in years. Might watch Top Gear if I am looking for something and its recording. But I don't really watch soaps or anything.

Recording stuff is just the convenience factor and that I tried to watch Catch 22 on C4 Player thing and the adverts made it unwatchable.
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I watched the sport last weekend but to be honest I didn't really watch any of it "live" as such, was recording it and playing catchup.
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Old 19-07-2019, 20:32   #17
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I don't get why companies try to rival massive companies that already have most the market. Rival netflix? Not a chance. They would need MUCH more than the back catalogue of BBC and ITV to get close to Netflix, and would take at least a decade, by which time they will pull the plug. Same reasons as we don't have anyone getting close to Amazon for online shopping or Sky/Virgin for pay TV. BT have a massive customer base and I don't know a single person with the BT TV box as they can't get close to Sky.
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I don't understand why BBC feel the need to compete with ITV/Sky etc. anyway. They're a publicly funded broadcaster with a royal charter etc. If a presenter costs too much because a rival might snap them up then fine, let them go. They're not at the behest of advertisers like a commercial channel and ratings effectively mean nothing as everyone has to have a tv licence regardless of whether they even watch the BBC if they're watching Live TV on any channel over UHF.
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Old 20-07-2019, 06:50   #19
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It's been covered before, but they seem obsessed with competing with everyone instead of being a public service broadcaster. A few people throw some of the stuff they do like it justifies it, but in reality we're seeing much more variety and niche stuff via the streaming services and random digital channels.

Not sure why they're even trying this, why not simply sell their stuff to one of these services like they do now?

I wonder who pays when this turns out to be a disaster?

They're not doing well the BBC, the old people TV licences thing and now we need to pay to watch the programmes we paid to create.

If I needed to save money, I'd ditch the TV licence over netflix.
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TBF the licence for pensioners stuff isn't really their fault. The Tory government just decided they could save money by passing the cost from the taxpayer to the BBC.
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