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Old 26-10-2019, 04:44   #61
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It was OK, certainly better than 3, Salvation and Genisys but it still pales in comparison to the first 2 films.
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Old 26-10-2019, 09:15   #62
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After 2, there is such a low bar to the films (although 3, salvation had some tiny little good bits). I got free tickets for early friday showing (would of waited till it was on rental or netflix) Yeah its not as bad as Genisys but the Mark kermode review is spot on

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It lacks so many new ideas, the films have become "reference" also its ***** how they


All the leaks was right (people said it was all BS). Imo its just rehashing the story. The tv show did new stories and thats what the film franchise needs. It does not have to be terminator is trying to kill the saviour of mankind
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Old 26-10-2019, 18:43   #63
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This was not bad at all - easily the best one since T2. But does get a bit silly, in parts, at the end

The John explanation was well done and Arnie is not there just to get bums on seats.

Not quite sure where anyone can get an anti-men slight from ? Other than the three leads are women; but that's hardly anti-men

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Old 27-10-2019, 10:36   #64
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Other than the three leads are women; but that's hardly anti-men
of course not
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In that case, the whole franchise is anti-men since it is all about Sarah Connor
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Old 27-10-2019, 11:19   #66
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In that case, the whole franchise is anti-men since it is all about Sarah Connor
my last post is saying having 3 female leads is not anti-men. Always funny when someone makes up their own arguments

edit: judging by the last x-men thread, best to drop it as colin threatened to close and ban people when someone with no interest in the thread decide to throw insults then scuttled away. T
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Old 27-10-2019, 14:21   #67
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I had no issues with the leads being all women, it didn't affect the film in any way, McKenzie Davis's character was very good.

The main issue with the film is that it just feels like a retread, in a similar that the Force Awakens just feels like a New Hope version 2, this felt the same.
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Old 27-10-2019, 15:18   #68
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I had no issues with the leads being all women,
again, no one did

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The main issue with the film is that it just feels like a retread, in a similar that the Force Awakens just feels like a New Hope version 2, this felt the same.
they even copy from T3



They need to do something new and not just recycle the same old lines and ideas. Mentioned before how the show had new and better ideas (funny how no one had a problem with it being called Terminator The sarah connor chronicles)
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It's also a very dull looking film in comparison to T2 (and even T1 at times).

1 simple comparison is the "weapons" room reveal in T2 and Dark Fate. In T2 it's nicely lit, with smoke/dust in the air and lights shaft coming into the room, looks like a proper film. In Dark Fate it's lit like a TV show, you can see everything and it just looks dull in comparison.
I don't like the look of modern films in general, I don't think it's the fault of digital shooting but I think the cinematographers are under pressure to make everything bright for when people watch at home and on portable devices.
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Old 28-10-2019, 22:22   #70
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Just back from seeing it.
I didn’t sob during the ending like 18 year old me did during t2 but 46 year old me did well up.
Passed all my tests for women’s participation in movies (Unlike most of the films I have seen this year sadly :-(
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Old 29-10-2019, 08:37   #71
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Saw it last night. Thought it was good, but that's about it. Felt that the background plot was rather unconvincing and somewhat pointless but the action on screen moved along quite well.

IMO almost on-par with T2JD and T4S (which I actually like). Better than T3ROTM; T5G is not worth mentioning.
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Old 29-10-2019, 08:41   #72
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It just didn't need to be made, just like the others after 2. It'll probably make money but I don't think it's going to do big business.

Not sure if this one is being released in China but Genisys would've been a massive loss if it weren't for the Chinese box office take.
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Passed all my tests for women’s participation in movies (Unlike most of the films I have seen this year sadly :-(
I enjoyed!
Jesus Christ. Why can't people just enjoy films for what they are instead of making them into some sort of social agenda?
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As I actually don’t like the fact most movies ignore 50% of the population? Hardly end of the world to want to see women as proper characters in movies!


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It's more to do with the fact that the biggest audience for cinema visits was 18-25 males. That stat may have changed.
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Jesus Christ. Why can't people just enjoy films for what they are instead of making them into some sort of social agenda?
I asked my wife about this. She's 51.

She said when you've spent decades upon decades watching Hollywood's output it's kinda hard not to have a mental checklist in your head when it comes clichéd representation of women.

It's way way better than it used to be (for both sexes) but women still often get a raw deal when it comes to decent characterisation.
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There has been women as "proper characters in movies" for years, people act like "a strong woman" is a new thing To use the example I was going to use against that other person, The terminator tv show has 2 great female actors in as the main cast and lots of people liked it. There was not **** agenda, no hate campaign, funny that

irrc Mad max fury road was heavily debated by ****** idiots that it was pure feminist film. Some just can't just enjoy a film, they have to make it social agenda especially on unsocial media. there is a even a website that scores a film by having less or no men and scores more if the main cast are non-white

One thing about the film thats not mention that was done well was the
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There has been women as "proper characters in movies" for years, people act like "a strong woman" is a new thing To use the example I was going to use against that other person, The terminator tv show has 2 great female actors in as the main cast and lots of people liked it. There was not **** agenda, no hate campaign, funny that

irrc Mad max fury road was heavily debated by ****** idiots that it was pure feminist film. Some just can't just enjoy a film, they have to make it social agenda especially on unsocial media. there is a even a website that scores a film by having less or no men and scores more if the main cast are non-white

One thing about the film thats not mention that was done well was the

Pointing out that occasionally over the years women have been represented well in cinema in no way invalidates the point that that it's been entirely one sided for a long time. And still is, just to a lesser extent.

And shutting down women by making them feel like they're forcing a "social agenda" on people just for commenting on how it's still a problem is pretty poor form.
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Pointing out that occasionally over the years women have been represented well in cinema in no way invalidates the point that that it's been entirely one sided for a long time. And still is, just to a lesser extent.
I'm not invalidating anyone's points. Just pointing out some on the internet act its recent thing that only happened with the world got "woke" Its a good thing that its not just white males on screen but when you have **** like ghostbusters 2016 and any criticism of the film is shouted down as "sexist" then there is a problem. Also the **** that hated the film because it had 4 women in is a problem as well. But that gets ignored...

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And shutting down women by making them feel like they're forcing a "social agenda" on people just for commenting on how it's still a problem is pretty poor form.
No, I'm not "shutting down" anyway, its civilised reply to a debate. Some people do have agenda and its tiresome as entertainment gets bogged down in this ****, not saying CJ has btw. Its like the critics that went after the Joker film, saying it was dangerous and will cause mass shootings and nothing happened (much to their annoyance) so they made a lot of hateful articles about it. Have not seen it myself yet but so many people say how great it is

I hope films, tv shows and even games get go back being about entertainment. (Crazy I know) Where you can create a story eg about girl that beats up vampires in 2019/2020 and not be about some agenda or make the men look stupid to build up the opposite sex (aka star trek discovery season 2).
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If anyone actually wants to talk about the film, (naaah, thats just stupid)

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