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Old 06-08-2012, 15:40   #41
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Neither the OCZ or Antec appear to feature modular cables in the 550w models. Personally, I'd go for the OCZ 550w. GFX card wise, probably the ATI 7770 (slightly over budget at £109.99).
Hmm they're not the basiq models neither. Basiq is bp and the 550 is modular whereas vp is not.
Since the £50 off covers the graphics card you could buy a different psu elsewhere and personally i'd try for modular as it cuts down on the number of cables cluttering up the case.
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Old 06-08-2012, 16:05   #42
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Hmm after further investigation go with the ocz as this says it's better than an antec that they say is better than the vp series.
PSUs seem to be the one component that have been going up in price (possibly due to the high metal content and lower sales volumes)
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Old 07-03-2013, 22:19   #43
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Can anyone advise, based on the above hardware what settings I should have in bios and windows 8 to ensure I'm getting optimum performance from the pc ?

I'm not after lightening fast overclocked speeds. Just stable and making the most of what I have.

I'm looking to do a full clean win 8 install

Current, with the ssd, I'm booting from cold in 10 seconds. Does this sound ok ?
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:42   #44
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Ok, some 12 months on since originally asking im back
I have done some upgrades so my current spec now is

Intel Core i5 2500K Processor overclocked to 4.6GHz
Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard
8GB PC3-10666 DDR3 Memory was 4GB PC3-10666 DDR3 Memory
Gigabyte 4890 oc edition Graphics Card was AMD Radeon 6670 1GB Graphics Card
1000GB SATA 7200rpm Hard Disk
650watt OCZ PSU was 500watt Basic EZCool PSU
Onboard High Definition Audio
Windows 7 was Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
128GB Samsung SSD Boot Drive

Now having decided against an XBOX one I was wandering how far off my current spec is of a Xbone beater ?

What would / should I add to it so that I can be sure something like Battlefield 4 will run better than it does on the new consoles ?

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Old 05-08-2013, 13:00   #45
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All you need really is a new GPU, everything else is pretty good

edit: Actually I'm not sure what a AMD 4800 is, but wouldn't the 6670 have been faster? The 4xxx series is from 2008/9

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Yeah, I'm assuming the 4800 is a typo. And as it's the single most important component for gaming - it's a typo we'd need corrected to comment.
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Sorry. The card is a Gigabyte 4890 oc edition
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Hmm yeah pretty much all you can do to noticeably improve performance is replace the GPU. Nothing else in that spec list will be holding you back.
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Cheers
Im trying to decide what to do, just say, to hell with it, and spend £300 or so on a GPU or see what I can get, maybe 2nd hand, for half that
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You can get a GTX670 for £200 which seems like a pretty good deal (although not in stock yet)

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-m...79mhz-plusfree
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I'm not sure I'd spend that much on a GPU right now. I'd be more tempted to wait and see what we actually need for next gen level games - like the frostbite 3 engine. You might find its not that demanding (the console GPU's are lower middle end) or it might be we need so much power that anything you spend tons on now isn't going to cut it and you'll need whatever card they release immediately after the consoles?

By all means if you need a boost now for current games then go for it but it seems a tad risky to invest in advance I think?
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Can my PC be a new console beater ( was previously Tweak my PC)

Haven't they just released the 7-series though? I can't see you needing much more than a 670 to outperform the new consoles. I'm hoping so as that's what I have!
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Haven't they just released the 7-series though?
Yeah, back in May for the 700 series. Consoles are at the end of the year and the Radeon 9000 series is also due around that time.

With an all ATI console line up, and ATI's new PC GPU's out at the same time, I don't think it's unrealistic to expect Nvidia to counter swiftly early 2014 if they're outperformed on all platforms by their rival.

I think it just depends how outperformed. Are we going to see the typical incremental speed boosts or is the efficiency of the console design going to blow PC's away? And if it does, does Nvidia have anything held back to give us a kick ass leap forward?

I'm just thinking getting a top of the line GPU right now (in the £300 range Duncan talked about) could be a risky move.
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Can my PC be a new console beater ( was previously Tweak my PC)

There's always new tech around the corner though. You have to eventually buy something otherwise you'll always be waiting for the latest models
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I'm not sure I'd spend that much on a GPU right now. I'd be more tempted to wait and see what we actually need for next gen level games - like the frostbite 3 engine. You might find its not that demanding (the console GPU's are lower middle end) or it might be we need so much power that anything you spend tons on now isn't going to cut it and you'll need whatever card they release immediately after the consoles?

By all means if you need a boost now for current games then go for it but it seems a tad risky to invest in advance I think?
Cheers. I may ask for a 670 for Xmas as maybe the prices will have dropped by then
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When buying graphics cards it's not the best idea to pick a particular card and wait for it to get cheaper.. they are superseeded so fast, you'll find a low midrange card from the next generation will offer more value for money than the older higher bracket card.

Taking that 670 as an example, I expect that you'll be able to buy a 760 by the end of the year at least £50 cheaper.. and it'll be as fast but with newer features.. or AMD will counter that particular section of the market with a card that does more for the money... then that'll have a further effect on second hand prices.. it's tricky. Basically, I'm saying I would not buy a 670 come Christmas.. it's a borderline case now.

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The 670 and 760 are the same architecture and the 670 is just in front performance wise. The 7xx series doesn't add anything worthwhile over the 6xx series, just clock speeds pumped up a bit. I've just got a 760 and I'd be shocked if it didn't last me at least 3 years.

edit: But yeah, come xmas time reassess the market. Things change constantly.

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There's always new tech around the corner though. You have to eventually buy something otherwise you'll always be waiting for the latest models
Except we've spent the past 5 years moaning the consoles are holding us back and they suddenly won't be. Will suddenly see a significant boost (it does happen sometimes - the 4870 is pretty memorable) or another incremental boost - which as you say happens all the time and so you can't really wait for it.

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When buying graphics cards it's not the best idea to pick a particular card and wait for it to get cheaper.. they are superseeded so fast, you'll find a low midrange card from the next generation will offer more value for money than the older higher bracket card.
Yeah the Geforce 2 Ultra is the last top end card I bought. It's far better to get mid range cards more frequently IMO.

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The last top end card I bought was a 3DFX Voodoo 1 I usually get a couple of models below top.
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I broke my Ultra. :'( Replaced the cooling on it, 'diluted' the thermal epoxy used to attach the heatsinks so they could be removed in the future, and one of them fell off shorting things out as it went.

Now I use thermal tape instead.
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