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Old 25-05-2018, 14:50   #101
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Wow never realized this is what they did, amazing work. looks far more realistic than anything that appeared in the prequels.

Not sure we can compare but I think the opening credits to Red Dwarf are still impressive when you take the budget into account.
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Old 25-05-2018, 15:45   #102
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I can't believe that we've made it all the way through this thread with no mention of the original matrix bullet time effects.
That's because it was 95% CGI. The only non-computer generated element of those scenes was Keanu Reeves.

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Old 30-05-2018, 19:48   #103
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That's because it was 95% CGI. The only non-computer generated element of those scenes was Keanu Reeves.
The original matrix bullet time was filmed photographically - but yes it became more cgi as the trilogy went on

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Old 30-05-2018, 19:59   #104
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It wasn't mate. If you think the effect was done 100% practically you need to go watch the making of again.

EDIT: like I said, the only practical thing in that sequence is Keanu Reeves


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Old 02-06-2018, 13:01   #105
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Chuck Russell's remake of The Blob is a masterclass in practical effects
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Old 02-06-2018, 13:54   #106
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It wasn't mate. If you think the effect was done 100% practically you need to go watch the making of again.

EDIT: like I said, the only practical thing in that sequence is Keanu Reeves
But the first "bullet time" we see was practical:

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But the first "bullet time" we see was practical
As I said about the Keanu one, the only thing practical in that first bullet time shot is the actors
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But the effect itself is practical. All the cameras set up around the actors are what created the effect, not the CGI that was then used to put in the background and hide the cameras.
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Of course filming it was practical, the bullet time effect in itself isn't
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We'll obviously have to agree to differ. The shot of Trinity in the air where the view spins around her in real time but slowed down aka bullet time is individual frames filmed from multiple angles put back together from the multiple physical shots. It's not computer generated but they probably used computers in the recomposing. It's not what I would call CGI, but if you want to that's fine.
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Old 02-06-2018, 16:36   #111
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But the first "bullet time" we see was practical:

That is still so cool.

I'm just glad they didn't try and make two sequels.
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Old 13-10-2019, 10:49   #112
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Was watching Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and was impressed with the scene where Iman is dressed in an alien costume and shes morphs into a child. Given the film was made back in '91 I thought the effect held up really well.
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I was watching The Gate last night and thought this scene of a zombie turning into lots of tiny demons was well done.


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Old 27-10-2019, 21:22   #114
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Highlander 2

Although the movie itself is a bit of a mess - later revisions tried to fix it with little success, this sequence I always found impressive.

https://youtu.be/MJd1ZH1CwFQ?t=43
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Star Trek the motion picture

Plenty of great model work but the sequence at the end where Decker and Ilya are transformed in light is still spectacular

Star Wars A new hope

Trench run is still brilliant
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Having just watched 4k77 and then 4k83 over the weekend, the step up in effects in Jedi is astonishing considering they were still essentially done the same way. I still find it incredible that the DSII attack was still done with bluescreen models and optical compositing.
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Having just watched 4k77 and then 4k83 over the weekend, the step up in effects in Jedi is astonishing considering they were still essentially done the same way. I still find it incredible that the DSII attack was still done with bluescreen models and optical compositing.
I completely agree. Everytime I watch ROTJ, the effects in the battle above Endor are breathtaking.
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God knows how many layers of ships are in those shots. It reminds me of the urban legend (don't know if true or not) that one guy was so bored filming asteroids for Empire that he stick his show into a shot, somewhere in the background.

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It's amazing really, they must have used very low grain stock to make sure that it still looked good. There's an old BBC Horizon video on youtube that shows them doing a lot of the old effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwMLOjqPmbQ

Personally I find it fascinating, the level of detail and perfectionism that went into effects pre-digital.
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Here's a playlist of the excellent 90s Discovery show, Movie Magic. Lots of behind the scenes footage on different types of practical effects.

I remember watching this on BBC2 I think, they go behind the scenes on a lot of classic films.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis..._-zNOVsNihYVHO

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