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Old 25-09-2011, 01:35   #61
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Good call on Black Narcisuss. It's so good I forget its a special effect and just get vertigo.
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Old 25-09-2011, 07:36   #62
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I think the recentish cool little horror Splinter was almost entirely animatronics and puppets and all the better for it. English director too. Films like this are so better suited to effects that are actually crafted.
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Old 25-09-2011, 10:03   #63
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For that era, the FX from Fritz Lang's Metropolis were quite incredible.

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Old 25-09-2011, 10:20   #64
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Predator and Predator 2, they still cant make the predator look as good as stan winstons suit and Kevin Peter Hall in the Suit.
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Old 25-09-2011, 12:22   #67
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The Abyss - the underwater FX were amazing, especially the NTI craft. All done with practical lighting, models, and motion controlled cameras and model rigs in smoke-filled rooms.

The only CGI in the film was the water tentacle.
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Old 25-09-2011, 13:09   #68
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Maybe not the most popular choice, but Jabba The Hutt in ROTJ was a mindblowing concept for me when I was younger (I'd be 5-6 I guess when I first saw the film) and I've always felt that there was a much better performance than the CGI versions that were used afterwards.
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Old 25-09-2011, 13:12   #69
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The ghost from the Ark at the end of Raiders is still one of the scariest things ever filmed. When it changes from the girls face to the fanged skull and the music kicks off was nightmare material when i was younger.

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There's a great, one of many, practical effect in the Wizard of Oz when Dorothy lands in Oz and a double for Judy Garland wearing sepia toned make-up, clothes and wig on a matching sepia toned set opens the front door and reveals the glorious Technicolor Oz. I also like the witches appearance and disappearance, green smoke and a practical trapdoor on set.

Christopher Lee's Dracula disintegrating at the end of the first Hammer Dracula film is excellent as well.
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Old 26-09-2011, 15:16   #71
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Maybe not the most popular choice, but Jabba The Hutt in ROTJ was a mindblowing concept for me when I was younger (I'd be 5-6 I guess when I first saw the film) and I've always felt that there was a much better performance than the CGI versions that were used afterwards.
Agree, and its probably been mentioned, but that is what I loved about the Original Star Wars trilogy - they actually built sets and crafts. The Millenium Falcon and X-Wing fighters were full size.... The corridors of the ships, death star, etc were all 'real'!

The prequal trilogy must have been so soul-less to work on, with few actual sets, and in some cases not even real characters to work off.

CGI is great, but beginning to take over, and while it can create some fantastic imagery in films, it seems its also being used for the most mundane things, too.

Saw a link on here once for a studio who produce CGI for TV and film (can't remember who it was, or the link), and it showed that even for shot of people walking out of a building onto a busy New York street on shows like 'Ugly Betty' that they were actually just walking out of a building frontage prop onto a greenscreen set, and the rest of the street was just CGI'd in.

Even the TV show 'Lost' - the 'others' camp which was supposed to be in the middle of rolling fields near mountains was actually right next to a road!

Bring back some good old fashioned effects, sets and props!

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Old 26-09-2011, 15:43   #72
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Superman flying in the first Superman film. That first time in the Fortress of Solitude still brings the goosebumps...

I'd say The Empire Strikes Back is probably the daddy of all non-CGI as a single film. The ice creature is a bit dodgy but other than that the innovation of motors to move the tauntauns just as the camera shuttered to give a convincing motion blur is spectacular. Still, I'd guess that the original un-edited Star Wars films have some of the greatest stuff you'll see of this sort, plus a few of the worst - The Rancor you know who you are!
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Superman flying in the first Superman film. That first time in the Fortress of Solitude still brings the goosebumps...

I'd say The Empire Strikes Back is probably the daddy of all non-CGI as a single film. The ice creature is a bit dodgy but other than that the innovation of motors to move the tauntauns just as the camera shuttered to give a convincing motion blur is spectacular. Still, I'd guess that the original un-edited Star Wars films have some of the greatest stuff you'll see of this sort, plus a few of the worst - The Rancor you know who you are!
You see, that never bothered me - well, the creature itself didn't, but there are some horrible matte lines in that sequence.

One of the things I never liked, was the 'space slug' that the Falcon flies into in ESB - The idea of them almost being trapped inside an asteroid was ok, but when the creature emerges from the crater to try and grab the ship, it looks exactly what it is.... a glove puppet.
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CGI is great, but beginning to take over, and while it can create some fantastic imagery in films, it seems its also being used for the most mundane things, too.
Why am I thinking of the lift shaft in Kingdom Hospital right now? Hideously badly done. I suspect CGI would be used routinely for similar shots nowadays, but it's not so obvious because it's not as shoddy.

Back on topic, two names immediately spring to mind.

I know he's been mentioned before, but that's because he was awesome - Derek Meddings. If nothing else, you have to love the man's inginuity. For example, the way they got a decent looking vapour trail out of such a small space shuttle model in Moonraker. Although he had a few failures (the houses in Superman after the dam bursts and the unconvincing cars / street towards the end of Burton's Batman) I like to think they just show how difficult his job was.

Also, credit must go to Rob Bottin's work on Robocop and the Thing. I watched the Thing just the other week, and it still looks marvelous. Magnificent work on relatively modest budgets!
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Sorry to stray slightly off-topic again, but this is the clip I referred to earlier, which reveals the amount of CGI used in TV nowadays...



Some of it is understandable, but some of it you just wouldn't think they'd use CGI for.
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You see, that never bothered me - well, the creature itself didn't, but there are some horrible matte lines in that sequence.

One of the things I never liked, was the 'space slug' that the Falcon flies into in ESB - The idea of them almost being trapped inside an asteroid was ok, but when the creature emerges from the crater to try and grab the ship, it looks exactly what it is.... a glove puppet.


It's the look of the Rancor sequence yeah, not the creature, esp given it took the 2004 remaster to fix it.
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Sorry to stray slightly off-topic again, but this is the clip I referred to earlier, which reveals the amount of CGI used in TV nowadays...



Some of it is understandable, but some of it you just wouldn't think they'd use CGI for.
That's really good. I suppose that CGI has become much more cost effective.
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Sorry to stray slightly off-topic again, but this is the clip I referred to earlier, which reveals the amount of CGI used in TV nowadays...



Some of it is understandable, but some of it you just wouldn't think they'd use CGI for.
That's an awesome show-reel!
I know it's not full size but looks pretty seamless to me, which is how the best CGI should be.
I guess it's when it's applied to living things that the physics can sometimes go out the window.

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Just remembered another one:

For the very few amoungst you that have seen it, the alternative ending to Little Shop of Horrors where the plants take over the world. It was actually extremely effective!
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The dropship crash in Aliens is a great example. Rear projection but with the marines actually moving in front of it making it look very realistic.

Plus you get that all time great line of dialogue from Hudson right after it
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