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Old 14-03-2011, 20:52   #41
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Ronin was defo De Niro's best film in recent times. Not really interested in his comdies.
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Old 14-03-2011, 20:56   #42
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I Heard You Paint Houses : Pacino, De Niro, Pesci & Scorsese make a gangster flick

What about Midnight Run? One of the funniest films ever made.

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Old 15-03-2011, 08:29   #43
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Midnight Run is a lot older than Ronin though. Then again Ronin is 13 years old now, so that's hardly recent!

I'd say Ronin was the last film he did that I actually liked. The last great film he did was undoubtedly Casino.

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Old 28-02-2013, 16:50   #44
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Looks like this is getting the greenlight finally
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Bloody hell. I'd forgotten all about this.

(Ronin is now 15 years old)
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:51   #46
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I Heard You Paint Houses : Pacino, De Niro, Pesci & Scorsese make a gangster fl

Yeah, but De Niro finally turned in a good performance in a good film a few months ago in Silver Linings Playbook.
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Old 02-03-2013, 22:45   #47
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Is this now called "The Irishman"?

Hope it's good!

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Old 15-05-2016, 11:28   #48
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Big thread bump.

Looks like this is finally happening according to new coming from Cannes. Called The Irishman now.
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Old 27-11-2019, 19:06   #49
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And it was good.

Classy all the way through, if it dragged it was near the end.

Wish I'd made the effort to see it at the cinema.

And definitely watch the short (30 mins) companion piece that came on after the film.
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Martin Scorsese has taken a story that spans over 60 years, and somehow managed to turn it into a film that’s only 59 years long.
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I went to see it at the cinema as was underwhelmed. I actually enjoyed the last hour the most.

Wasn't bad - just wasn't worth all the talent and effort. No real dynamic and some clumsy story telling.

Very disappointed. But will give it a second chance on netflix.



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I've started it and hope to finish it tonight! Stupid real life getting in the way....

My brain just can't accept the de-aging in some scenes and I'm not entirely sure why. Some of the effects shots are great, but for lots of them my brain is clearly seeing something wrong and wondering what it is. I think its maybe the times when people are moving around that it looks a bit shonky.

I know the effects have been getting praised in some reviews, but they're distracting to me in a way that they weren't in Captain Marvel for example.
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And it was good.

Classy all the way through, if it dragged it was near the end.

Wish I'd made the effort to see it at the cinema.

And definitely watch the short (30 mins) companion piece that came on after the film.
I saw this at the cinema yesterday. It must be the longest movie I've ever seen that didn't have an intermission but certainly didn't feel that long.

What was the 30min thing?
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I'm not one of those people to take the contrary view just to appear edgy ... but, really ? This was way too long, mostly uninvolving, actually a bit boring in parts, with somewhat confusing/jarring jumps in chronology, and seemed to rely on a knowledge of US history that I don't have (and am not all that interested in).

I've been looking forward to this for an age, with Goodfellas and Casino as 2 of my all time faves. Hell, I even shelled out to see a cinema re-release of Taxi Driver (2006? On an old scratchy reel). But I honestly can't remember the last time I was so disappointed with a film.

It starts off very promising, and looks absolutely fantastic (sitting 8ft away from my 8ft screen, 1080p/dd.5.1). So many great shots in the first half of the film, then either Scorcese stopped doing them, or I stopped noticing. And the de-aging worked really well too, only occasionally distracting for me (in the reverse angle shots, plus 2 small glitches that could have been my rip.)

There's this whole world with a host of interesting characters, but the view is very narrow and doesn't feel like real lives being lived. Given the heavyweight actors (who are great), such focus might be understandable, but the dialogue meanders, is rarely compelling, and my attention occasionally wandered. I did get better drawn-in by the more linear and less time-warpy final half, before feeling let down as I began to realise where the whole thing was going.

+1 for cinematography, so 6/10. Hugely disappointing. I think I need to watch 'Gangs Of New York' again ...
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Couldn't have put it better myself.

Another example of a talented Director being free to do what they want (I'm thinking of you QT/OUATIH) and producing something that feels lethargic and hardwork.



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What was the 30min thing?
A round table discussion between Scorsese, De Niro, Pesci and Pacino about how the film came about and how it was made.
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There's always this, for those who don't want to watch it all in one or two blocks.


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The cgi faces didn't work at all for me. It doesn't matter how much you smear the features - it's still an old man's voice you hear and an old body you see shuffling round. The illusion of youth was totally absent; in that scene in which a 'young' Sheeran stomps on the shopkeeper who shoved his daughter, I was reminded of how Private Godfrey might have handled it.
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There's always this, for those who don't want to watch it all in one or two blocks.
^ useful for a food break.

I've been thinking some more today about the film. I *so* wanted to like it.

I don't think a 2h30m edit would be any better - it really needs a full 10hrs, to give the main characters more personality and to really flesh out the the minor characters (with some decent BB/BCS/6FU-style dialogue). This would also have the benefit of burying the main story arc, which is pretty poor imo!
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