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Old 15-07-2008, 11:15   #1
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~20" LCD TV / Monitor - Suggestions?

On my desk I currently have my nice (but old) 20.1" Dell monitor and an ancient 14" portable CRT. I don't use the CRT that much, although at the moment I have brought the Gamecube upstairs so I can ocassionally sit at my desk and play.

I think I'd like to get rid of the CRT and get a new LCD TV to replace it. I want something I can plug the PC into for a secondary monitor, since I watch a lot of video on my PC and it'd be nice for the extended desktop so I can watch + work. Also if I want to take my Xbox 360 anywhere it'd be cool to have a small TV to take with it.

I was originally looking at the Samsung SM2032MW 20" which looked a bit of a bargain, but I since read a lot of bad reviews and took a look at one in Richer Sounds and wasn't convinced. The guy in Richer Sounds strongly recommended an LG, and after a bit of searching I've found 3 models.

They're the top 3 on this page:

LG 22LS4D 22" (~£250) - Seems to be a TV first, monitor second. Looks fairly decent, saw one running yesterday and looked really nice. Has good inputs.

LG M228WA 22"(~£170) - This appears to be a monitor first, TV second - though still has built in Freeview. What's the main difference between this and the 22LS4D - apart from the fact it appears you can get it for £50 cheaper and you get 3 year warranty. Why go for the 22LS4D over this one?

LG 22LG3000 22" (~£300) - The brand new model, ups the contrast ratio from 3000:1 to 15,000:1 and from what I gather is a much better panel over all, it's the very latest version. Downside is it's almost twice the price of the M228WA.

Anyone got experience with these 3 models? The M228WA sounds like a good choice at the moment and I'm keen to see the difference between that and the 22LS4D. They both look like they'd be decent monitors and TVs.

The 22LG3000 looks very nice, but I think I'd have to wait for a bit until I can pick it up at around £250-270. The other two would be available at a decent price immediately. Though I think the release of the 22LG3000 makes the choice of a 22LS4D at its current price point a bad one.

Edit: I should say I still want to be able to use my Gamecube on them so I'm hoping the SCART in on them isn't going to be too crap? For my PS2, 360 and Wii I have component (but I'd rather not cart the Wii upstairs, hence wanting to use the GC).

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Old 15-07-2008, 15:06   #2
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If anyone has either of the 3 machines and just wants to say if it's crap or if they're impressed with it, then please dive right in
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Old 22-07-2008, 15:24   #3
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Advice has been flooding in in this thread then

I think I'm going to go for the 22LG3000 - it's not much more and the panel sounds like it's been greatly improved, but most importantly so has the sound which is apparently rather crap on the other two.

This is just based on what LG say though, no reviews yet. No websites, including LGs, mention a release date and many of the sites hint that it's only out of stock temporarily - but I emailed LG today and got a (very prompt!) reply stating that this particular model won't be out until the end of August.

So I'm in for a bit of a wait! Good job I'm not desparate for the TV.

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Old 22-07-2008, 17:10   #4
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A few months ago I got a Sony-KDL20S3020 It can take PC input but I've never used it so can't give any feedback in that regard. It does have a really good picture quality though and I'd rather have a 20" Sony than an 22" LG. I got mine as a price match from John Lewis for a price similar to the link above. Plenty of positive comments there too. Though as the smallest model in the range it only has 1 hdmi socket.
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Really? I'm not a big fan of the Sony brand, although I do hear their panels have improved in recent years. The resolution on that panel is 1366 X 768, whilst all the ones I'm looking at are 1680x1050.

From what I've read and heard about LG though they're going from strength to strength recently? I took a good look at a load of panels in Richer Sounds and the LG was certainly the best out of the 20-22"ers.

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The LGs generally seem to get fairly average reviews but at the end of the day it is your cash I would imagine most of the panels are from the same source in lots of cases now and the devil is in the electronic detail they all put around them.
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After searching around plenty of TVs, I was still taken by the LG. Particularly as I wanted it as a secondary monitor and the resolution on offer was decent.

The 22LG3000 is now finally being stocked by retailers. I've just ordered one from Dabs.com for £277.99 which is a pretty good price (£15-20 cheaper than everywhere else). I'll post back with what I think of it
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How was it? In the market for a cheap TV for the kids and a dual role as a monitor would be a bonus.
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It arrived the other day after a lot of hassle with Dabs, Amtrak (who went bust the same day my package was sent to them) and Business Post.

I've rather impressed with it! The resolution is plenty high so as a monitor it works very well, and the menus and EPG look great (especially when the TV channel image is shrunk inside the EPG). The quality of Freeview didn't seem that great compared to the 32" Toshiba in our lounge, but maybe that's as we sit further back. I haven't extensively tried out the Freeview yet as I don't have an aerial cable upstairs.

The 360 looks great on it (under VGA), with Component though it looks rather dark. I haven't tried my PS2 with it on component yet.

The sound seems very good, plenty loud enough - there have been previous reports on older LG LCDs having very "tinny" sound, but this doesn't seem to suffer from it.

Scart seems ok, gave the Gamecube a bash and it looked a bit crap - just like SD on any HD LCD TV mind - but not as bad as I had feared.

Have to say the best bit about it is the VGA for the PC, which is what I was worried about the most! Set it up as as secondary monitor and the 1680 x 1050 resolution of it means it looks absolutely great.

It's a great build too and looks very nice as TVs go, quite similar to the recent Samsung range. Nice blue LED on the front, good remote which is plenty responsive too.

Thumbs up from me, will see what I think in 6 months time
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