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Old 06-04-2008, 09:30   #1
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Charlton Heston - R. I. P.

It has just been announced that Charlton Heston has died at age 83.

I take it for granted that lovers of classic movies recognise Charlton Heston's contribution to English-language cinema culture. Admittedly, and he did himself admit it, he was lucky that at the beginning of his career he made two films with Cecil B. DeMille. As Heston himself put it "if you can't make it with two DeMilles, you'll never make it."

For a long time Heston was not granted appropriate credit for his work by many critics, professional and amateur. I suspect this ties in with the point Derek Elley makes in his classic book The Epic Film that many critics might be very knowledgeable about fashionable aspects of movies yet be totally ignorant about history, The Bible and The Classics. Heston himself made the point more than once in interviews that in many ways it is far more difficult to play "big" characters against a big canvas than to play in small tense dramas.

Heston's place in history is assured because he appeared in so many movies that will alway be revived or watched on DVD and, I assume, soon on high definition discs.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:49   #2
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It seems there's more sad news every day.
Chuck's another big loss to cinema and I've been a great fan of his for about as long as I can remember. I'd just been commenting elsewhere the other day that lots of critics liked to belittle his acting talents, but his was a powerful presence in the movies and always gave me pleasure to watch.
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RIP

An iconic legend, who was only slightly when it came to the NRA

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With Widmark, this makes two of my very favourite actors gone recently. Ever since childhood, Heston has been one of those actors I'll watch in anything; he could carry a movie with his larger-than-life presence and give it more gravitas than it sometimes deserved. I love his moving scenes with Edward G. Robinson in Soylent Green, and while Planet of the Apes and Ben-Hur are my absolute favourites, it's the cheesy fun of The Omega Man that I'll always remember most fondly. It's probably the first Heston film I saw as a kid, and it caught my imagination right from that opening sequence, with Heston driving through the deserted L.A. streets to Ron Grainer's funky score. Really enjoyed his autobiography a few years back, too. R.I.P. Chuck. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7332960.stm
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Anyone grabbed his gun yet?
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Anyone grabbed his gun yet?

Sad, cheap and tasteless
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And funny.
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Definitely not a good year for Hollywood with the strike and all these deaths. R.I>P Charlton Heston.

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R.I.P Livius' sense of humour.
Well mine's obviously died as well, because Livius' comment is exactly what I was thinking.
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yeah just like his nra rallies right after those kids got slaughtered
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Well, I understood this was a cinema forum where posts were to be dedicated to film related matters.
Clearly, I was mistaken; it's simply another opportunity to make bargain basement cracks at the expense of a man who has only just passed away.
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Heston loved collecting guns, and hated the politically correct lunacy of the last couple of decades. Nowt wrong with that. He also got Ice-T fired from Time Warner, I tip my hat the man.

RIP Heston.

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Heston loved collecting guns, and hated the politically correct lunacy of the last couple of decades. Nowt wrong with that. He also got Ice-T fired from Time Warner, I tip my hat the man.

RIP Heston.
So let me get this right you supported his rights to bear arms but were happy for him to prevent Ice Ts right to freedom of speech? Is that right?

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R.I.P

A very fine actor.
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So let me get this right you supported his rights to bear arms but were happy for him to prevent Ice Ts right to freedom of speech? Is that right?
How is this infringing on Ice T's freedom of speech? If his record label drops him because they decide he's too controversial, that doesn't stop him from shopping his talents elsewhere.

Having the right to speak one's mind doesn't obligate a corporation to provide a platform.
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So let me get this right you supported his rights to bear arms but were happy for him to prevent Ice Ts right to freedom of speech? Is that right?
Ice Ts freedom of speech... Which includes lyrics of murdering policemen and sodomising 12 year old girls.

Is that the kind of freedom of speech you want to see in society?
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Ice Ts freedom of speech... Which includes lyrics of murdering policemen and sodomising 12 year old girls.

Is that the kind of freedom of speech you want to see in society?
Whether I like his lyrics or not is irrelevant. The amercian constitution protects his right to free speech as it does the right to bear arms. Heston and his ilk spout the constitution whenever anyone dares to question an american's right to own a huge arsenal of weaponry but try to blackmial companies when they release music with lyrics they don't like.

I haven't seen the stats by I imagine more people have been killed in the US by legally held guns than by listening to Cop Killer.
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Whether I like his lyrics or not is irrelevant. The amercian constitution protects his right to free speech as it does the right to bear arms.
His right to freedom of speech does not mean a right to be published. Nothing is free and there are rules in place in any society.

Heston was supporting an American right in the first place. Until the law changes he's not the bad guy at all.
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Whether I like his lyrics or not is irrelevant. The amercian constitution protects his right to free speech as it does the right to bear arms. Heston and his ilk spout the constitution whenever anyone dares to question an american's right to own a huge arsenal of weaponry but try to blackmial companies when they release music with lyrics they don't like.

I haven't seen the stats by I imagine more people have been killed in the US by legally held guns than by listening to Cop Killer.
So a right to free speech includes a right to have Warner release a disc of your free speech - your point is stupid.

Also I would imagine more kids are killed by drugs than guns, but nobody gives John Belushi or Robert Downey Jr. a hard time.
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