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Old 18-04-2008, 16:01   #41
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As I grew up with the Theatrical version, it will always be my favourite Blade Runner. Sure, the Final Cut is a better version but it isn't my favourite. I also like the voice over. I only bought the 5 disc set because of the TC (and I like tins).
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Old 19-04-2008, 13:26   #42
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Surely, lots of people like me watched the Theatrical version on VHS before DVD came out. I have been watching Blade Runner regularly for about 18 years now.

I would still watch the Theatrical (International) Cut before the Final Cut.
Yeah, that's what I said. Most people (who had seen multiple versions at all before this 5-disc release) had seen one of the theatrical versions and then the director's cut. Watching the workprint and both theatrical versions doesn't reflect most people's actual experience of the film.

I used to have the International cut taped off of TV (my first exposure to BR), and bought the Director's cut first on VHS and then later on DVD.
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Old 20-06-2008, 10:27   #43
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I have the OTR version taped off the TV some 20 years ago, the Director's Cut on Widescreen VHS and the Final Cut on DVD. Saw the Final Cut last night and thought that it was excellent. My own opinion of the film has changed from "what's all the fuss about?" originally to "great futuristic noir" now. Of course, one needs to ignore the actual year of the film's setting; 2019 might have seemed in the distant future in 1982, but not in 2008 and so the idea of outer worlds and replicants is more applicable to 2119. Perhaps Ridley Scott should have considered that in the title sequence.
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Old 20-06-2008, 11:04   #44
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Perhaps Ridley Scott should have considered that in the title sequence.
He almost certainly considered it, but it's quite right that it wasn't changed. The film is an early '80s document now, with a view of 'a' future from that point in time - it's pretty doubtful that the film-makers would still see it as a literal prophecy now, perceptive as it is.

Anyway, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is a much more pressing case. That's set in the far-flung future of 1991...
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Old 20-06-2008, 11:56   #45
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I saw BR on it's initial theatrical release and own the Criterion LD BS (and the five disc DVD and HD sets).

I like the voiceover, I always have. I was never keen on 'that ending' though...

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Old 20-06-2008, 13:12   #46
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He almost certainly considered it, but it's quite right that it wasn't changed. The film is an early '80s document now, with a view of 'a' future from that point in time - it's pretty doubtful that the film-makers would still see it as a literal prophecy now, perceptive as it is.
Considering all the other tinkering done with it, I don't see why he didn't change it.

The final cut is no more a curiosity than the others. But the fact that the films overall look and grade has been modernised and now looks very green it doesn't feel much like the film I remember anyway.
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Old 20-06-2008, 16:46   #47
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Anyway, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is a much more pressing case. That's set in the far-flung future of 1991...
That's right. GWB did not take office till 2000.
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Old 21-06-2008, 10:23   #48
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Anyway, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is a much more pressing case. That's set in the far-flung future of 1991...
Demolition Man is quite a bad case as well, the opening is set in a semi-apocalyptic 1996 where it is necessary to cryogenically freeze criminals. The film was released in 1993.

Also we're only 7 years away from 2015? Where are the flying cars and hoverboards?

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When these things expire I start to think of them as parallel universes.
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When these things expire I start to think of them as parallel universes.
I completely agree. Although that may be caused by my tablets I took an hour ago.


What I would like to know is what people watching the film for the first time think? Maybe people in their early 20s who've been force fed CGI crap over the years.

It's interesting to hear all the comments from BR devotees too of course as we all hold a mental image of films in out memories which is why I hate it when films are 'changed' decades later with revisionist vandalism as carried out by the numpty George Lucas. I wasn't knowingly affected by this revisionism in BR and more importantly didn't notice it (apart from my imaginings about that paper animal at the end -but I'm not sure what I thought I might of watched prior) as I found the experience to be wonderful and how I'd remembered the film but it or me had matured. That's a nice experience and a real treat.
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Interesting to read this thread. A VERY kind friend of mine (who also posts on this forum) has given me gratis a five disc HD DVD copy of this as I had never seen it and he had bought the blu ray version.

Having never seen the film, which version should I start with? I find the whole different version thing a little confusing.
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Having never seen the film, which version should I start with? I find the whole different version thing a little confusing.
Seeing as you've been blessed with having never seen it, and have all these choices you may as well start with the 'final cut'.
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I would personally suggest the theatrical version followed by the final cut.

Be warned that Blade Runner is such a dense film you need two watches to get it.
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For those who prefer the voiceover Theatrical cut, surely you can't advocate the bit where Ford starts pointing out the obvious just after the "Teardrops in the rain" speech?
PS, the clips of Ford recording the voiceover are pretty hilarious in the DVD documentary.
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Having never seen the film, which version should I start with? I find the whole different version thing a little confusing.
Final cut first if you've never seen it, it's the way Ridley Scott wants it seen.

Actually, start with the Dangerous Days doc. It'll get you in the mood, and it's fascinating,even to a casual observer like myself and, it seems, yourself.

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Final cut first if you've never seen it, it's the way Ridley Scott wants it seen.

Actually, start with the Dangerous Days doc. It'll get you in the mood, and it's fascinating,even to a casual observer like myself and, it seems, yourself.
Why would anybody want to watch a Making Of... documentary which spoils the plot if they haven't seen the film before ?

Otherwise I agree, watch The Final Cut first, it's by far the best version of the film. I saw the film when it first came out and even then the voice over struck me as intrusive while the happy end was a jarring tonal shift that made no sense whatsoever. I was glad to see both go when the directors cut was released and the tweaks of the special effects and stunt work have made a film which already was a masterpiece flawless.
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Why would anybody want to watch a Making Of... documentary which spoils the plot if they haven't seen the film before ?

Otherwise I agree, watch The Final Cut first, it's by far the best version of the film. I saw the film when it first came out and even then the voice over struck me as intrusive while the happy end was a jarring tonal shift that made no sense whatsoever. I was glad to see both go when the directors cut was released and the tweaks of the special effects and stunt work have made a film which already was a masterpiece flawless.
Good point.
I just found it incredibly interesting, and I realisedI knew more of the plot than I thought.
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Old 24-06-2008, 20:19   #58
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Final cut for me, i first saw Blade Runner when channel 4 showed it in 99 followed by the Kermode docu and i was only 11 at the time so i did'nt get the film at all and from what i remember, I thought it was pretty boring.

Like it alot now though and can see it for what a great piece of film making it is.
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There is still one more version of Blade Runner not released on DVD and that is the version where we have the "happy ending" but!! we do not have the 1982 version where they used outtakes from The Shining for the ending(no yellow VW car ) ,even though most do not like that ending I would have thought they would have included it in the 5 disc set!!

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