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Old 16-07-2007, 21:29   #21
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He can't compete on the same terms as he has no feet. End of story. Not everyone is equal.
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Old 17-05-2008, 12:46   #22
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He's won his appeal: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...gReNwD90MU63O0
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Old 17-05-2008, 13:30   #23
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he may well have won his appeal, but he's about a second outside qualifying for the 400m (even on his PB) so an individual run is unlikely. probably make the relay team for the publicity if nothing else
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Old 20-07-2011, 12:05   #24
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Well he has now got the 'A' standard for Olympic qualification so could very well get selected for the SA team in 2012.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/14212248.stm

Would be interesting to know if this improvement in time is due to him as an athlete or rather advances in carbon fibre technology.
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whats wrong with him entering the special Olympics? is he too good for them?
whats going on with South Africa, a guy with no feet wants to run the 400 metres, and a girl who's a guy running the 800 metres.
I'd hate to think what they've got running the marathon
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Old 20-07-2011, 15:38   #26
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whats wrong with him entering the special Olympics? is he too good for them?

He's an amputee, not mentally disabled.
The Paralympics is for athletes with physical disabilities
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Old 20-07-2011, 16:03   #27
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He's an amputee, not mentally disabled.
The Paralympics is for athletes with physical disabilities
so whys he not entering there?
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Old 20-07-2011, 18:07   #28
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Weird that I started this thread and am now an amputee myself.

Good luck to.Oscar
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Old 20-07-2011, 20:03   #29
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so whys he not entering there?
He's already won the 100m, 200m and 400m at the 2008 Paralympics, and he holds the world records for those events (in his disability category).

Surely it's not difficult to see why he wants to race against the best runners in the world regardless of ability? Interestingly, the IAAF actually invited him to compete in an able-bodied race, so it's a poor show from them trying to exclude him IMO.

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Not sure about this myself, I can see both sides of the arguments, but what's the point of the IAAF conducting various tests, deducing he has an advantage over athletes without prosthetics and ruling him ineligible only to have the CAS overrule it?

Are there any other double amputees using the same prosthetics Pistorius does for competing on track?
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what's the point of the IAAF conducting various tests, deducing he has an advantage over athletes without prosthetics and ruling him ineligible only to have the CAS overrule it?
The problem with the IAAF test were that they were only looking for advantages gained, not looking for any disadvantages. Because there were areas where the blades gave an advantage they automatically excluded him.

What the CAS did was look at both the advantages and disadvantages of using the blades. Their conclusion was that there is an overall disadvantage when all factors are considered.
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whats wrong with him entering the special Olympics? is he too good for them?
whats going on with South Africa, a guy with no feet wants to run the 400 metres, and a girl who's a guy running the 800 metres.
I'd hate to think what they've got running the marathon
Wow, you sound nice.

As far as i'm concerned if he has the ability to run at the olympics he deserves an opportunity.
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Wow, you sound nice.

As far as i'm concerned if he has the ability to run at the olympics he deserves an opportunity.
Seems very strange that they stop athletes from taking enhancing drugs, yet he can wear blades for feet that enhance his ability, if he was running against people with the same disability then that would be fair.
Christ they even limit what footwear you can wear.
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As far as i'm concerned if he has the ability to run at the olympics he deserves an opportunity.
The problem as I see it is that it is the thin end of a wedge, and to be honest I find CAS's stance to be bizarre. Basically they are saying that there is not enough evidence to show that the blades impart a performance advantage, so they are allowed. Surely though, in a case where a key body part is being replaced by mechanics, there should be a default ban and it should be necessary to prove to a reasonable extent that there isn't a performance gain. Would full cybernetic limb replacements get a initial free pass if they ever became available?
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The problem as I see it is that it is the thin end of a wedge, and to be honest I find CAS's stance to be bizarre. Basically they are saying that there is not enough evidence to show that the blades impart a performance advantage, so they are allowed. Surely though, in a case where a key body part is being replaced by mechanics, there should be a default ban and it should be necessary to prove to a reasonable extent that there isn't a performance gain. Would full cybernetic limb replacements get a initial free pass if they ever became available?
I viewed the issue in a similar way. Pistorius was arguing he's at a disadvantage due to not have feet or calf muscles, but the IAAF I believe were making part of their case around that because he doesn't have lower legs, he doesn't suffer the lactic acid problem other athletes do.

Surely, the manufacturers of these blades will be applying technology to their devices that gives amputees an advantage other other amputees using different prosthetics. Is there anything now stopping them from developing these blades to give an advantage over non-amputees?
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We passed the thin end of the wedge a long time ago. Remember all the furore over Chris Boardman's bike? More recently there have been a lot of discussions surrounding the swimsuits people have been using.

In situations like these I think it's best to assess things on a case by case basis. If it can be clearly demonstrated that something gives someone an unfair advantage then it should be outlawed, but if not then allow it. That's no different from the stance they take on banned substances.
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