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Old 19-05-2005, 08:12   #41
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I have prologic I and II on my amp and II is far far better.. astounded at what it does with a simple left and right phono input..

Reminds me since I got it I haven't tried the entire film (BR) in II.. must try that..
Thanks for all your advice.

I got a copy of Monster through the post from Blockbuster online last night. Despite their website detailing the disc as having a DTS sound track and loads of extras it was bare bones (save for a 15 making of doc) with no DTS and standard dd2.0.

I selected ProLogicII on my amp and I have to say I was very impressed with the experience. In places you could tell it was non-discrete (I'm getting the lingo!) but it wasn't too far off a 5.1 mix. Good film too.
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Old 19-05-2005, 15:18   #42
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I love Blade Runner, but have only seen the '92 DC. For years I've wanted to see the original TC, for the detective noir voiceovers - I love crime noir.
Defenders of the TC often site the Chandler/Hammett influences on the film and that the VO is merely an extension of this. They've clearly never read any of this fiction however, as Big Ray could actually write and Hammett didn't use first-person narration. The VO writing in BR is only good for pointing out the blatantly obvious and as an exercise in cliché, add to that Ford's lifeless delivery of said material (reportedly hoping that if it was that bad they wouldn't actually use it!!!) and the whole thing is a disaster that added much to the film's originally poor critical reception. VO narration can work brilliantly in film (Apocalypse Now and Sunset Boulevard spring to mind), just not in this instance.
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Old 19-05-2005, 15:23   #43
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If anything, Deckard sounds like Mike Hammer.

It's worth seeing the original cut, however, because there is the odd thing in the voiceover that's halfway interesting (Deckard's observations about Gaff). It is utterly obtuse, though.
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True, and any film that includes the line "Sushi. That's what my ex-wife used to call me", has to be worth seeing for all the wrong reasons.....

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Old 19-05-2005, 17:33   #45
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If anything, Deckard sounds like Mike Hammer.
At least he doesn't sound like Sledge Hammer.
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Old 20-05-2005, 06:52   #46
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At least he doesn't sound like Sledge Hammer.
...or MC Hammer.
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I love Blade Runner, but have only seen the '92 DC. For years I've wanted to see the original TC, for the detective noir voiceovers (couldn't give a toss about the original happy ending) - I love crime noir.

What exactly happens in the happy ending? My older brother told me that
That accurate?
Also with the inclusion of a road mountain pass nicked from Stanley Kubrick's Shindings

Never really worked out if it was actually material from movie or Warner cutting room floor leftovers.

....or reversed negative image maybe....

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It's unused footage I believe.
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Yeah, Kubrick let Scott rifle through the helicopter footage from The Shining on the condition that he couldn't use any shots that were actually in that film.
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Slightly OT but has anyone played the game? Equally brilliant.
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Slightly OT but has anyone played the game? Equally brilliant.
The game was excellent, never finished though cuz of an "event trigger" bug I encountered. It was one of the last great "point-and-click" adventure games.
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It irks me that I haven't seen the European cut (although I have now seen the theatrical release, albeit on VHS - I watched the ending twice). I can't quite bring myself to buy a laserdisc player & then fork out for the Criterion edition as well - I live in the vain hope that some amazing DVD package will eventually see the light of day. It must be the optimist in me.
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Slightly OT but has anyone played the game? Equally brilliant.
One of the best film games ever - recreates the atmosphere of the film very effectively - I completed it!!!

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It irks me that I haven't seen the European cut (although I have now seen the theatrical release, albeit on VHS - I watched the ending twice). I can't quite bring myself to buy a laserdisc player & then fork out for the Criterion edition as well - I live in the vain hope that some amazing DVD package will eventually see the light of day. It must be the optimist in me.
Even if some amazing DVD package would arrive it would surprise me completely if the European cut was on the disk. The fact that the major differences are (which I'm sure you already know
Has anyone ever seen the workprint, according to the BR site the 3 disc set was going to contain a copy of the Work Print as well as the theatrical and the new DC. Read about the differences and the discovery in Future Noir: The making of Blade Runner and would love to see that version one day.
These changes include (taken from Future Noir)


There is a lot more info in the book but I hope this shows some of the major changes. Thw Work Print is a 70mm print discovered by a stereo film preservationist Michael Arick in 1991. It had a limited, yet sucesful release from a 35mm print as well as the 70mm. Ridley Scott was shown the cut and it spurned him to find the unicorn sequence (missing from the WP) and led to the DC that we know.

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Oooh, that book sounds interesting - worth a purchase?
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I've seen the workprint. It's been floating around for years as a bootleg.
There's a Video Watchdog article that Sammon wrote that discusses all the different versions as well as his BR book.
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One of the best film games ever - recreates the atmosphere of the film very effectively - I completed it!!!

Me too, twice to see the alternate ending.
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