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Old 04-05-2020, 17:47   #1
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Question Anyone yet to upgrade to 4K TV and Sound to match

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11 years next month and I'm still using my Pioneer Kuro KRP-600A 1080P, . Has anyone else yet to make the jump to 4K, also is there anyone here made the jump to 8K? Anyone gone for ATMOS and has the speakers on the ceiling?
My Sound System is again is from the same era Yamaha RX V1900 and KEF 3005SE (I wish I'd bought the Bowers & Wilkins set back then instead)

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Old 04-05-2020, 18:53   #2
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Welcome

11 years next month and I'm still using my Pioneer Kuro KRP-600A 1080P, . Has anyone else yet to make the jump to 4K, also is there anyone here made the jump to 8K? Anyone gone for ATMOS and has the speakers on the ceiling?
My Sound System is again is from the same era Yamaha RX V1900 and KEF 3005SE (I wish I'd bought the Bowers & Wilkins set back then instead)

Thinking of you


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Jumped about three years back, TV and surround - although opted for 7.1 placement instead of ceiling mounting as I didn’t want to start cutting holes etc and wasn’t convinced by up-firing speakers.

Putting sound and vision side by side my preference is vision so I told myself this generation I wanted to go flagship with the TV, settling for the Panasonic DX902 FALD. I wanted the best possible picture quality with the introduction of HDR and went FALD over OLED for higher peak brightness.

In terms of resolution there are some stunning 4K presentations out there, but a lot of stuff is only a minor upgrade on 1080P to be honest. It is the HDR that has really impressed me for both film and gaming.

It will be a very long time until I consider the move to 8K, next to no content aside, I don’t see the upgrade in resolution terms alone that much of a draw.
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Old 04-05-2020, 20:55   #3
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About 2 years for me I did both the TV and Atmos with a 5.1.2 system.

Tried it as 7.1 for a bit but thought the 5.1.2 gave a better "bubble" of sound. It's subtle most of the time but pretty good.

As above. 8K, what's the point, no source material and I doubt I could see the difference. 1080p to 4K the resolution jump is the last thing I notice compared to HDR/DV and wider colour gamut.
Unless 8K brings anything new to the game I won't be upgrading until my TV's die on me and by then I won't have a choice.
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I was too busy in the 2 years leading up to November 2019 due to supervising our second home in India (then) approaching retirement, sale of our house etc and so had not bothered. But once all that was behind me, I upgraded to all round 4K in 3 rooms - lounge, master bedroom and upstairs studio of our duplex flat in Bexhill. 4K TVs, 4K BD players, Sky Q and 4K compatible cables from Audioquest or similar.
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Got the Sony STRDN1080 due to my previous Yamaha amp not supporting HDCP (well, that was my excuse as I'd worked around that with an HDMI splitter but I wanted to try the virtual 7.1/ Atmos). Went with a Philips OLED in November as my add-on Ambilight option was a bit annoying and only worked if I was watching content via my media PC - and Netflix blocked the Kodi addon from hardware decoding and Amazon Prime Video stopped supplying anything above SD on it. Now use an nVidia Shield Tube as my main media device, and wow, sometimes I can't even tell I'm watching an upscaled 720p stream in 4k. My Sony Pascal SAVE835 5.1 system is still fulfilling audio duties admirably.
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Old 05-05-2020, 19:45   #6
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4K compatible cables from Audioquest or similar.
I hope you didn't spend a lot on them.

Amazon Basics Hi-Speed cables do the same thing for ~£5

More really for info if you need to replace them as there's a lot of BS with cables. If it's not a huge run then the Amazon ones are fine, there's no benefit to spending extra, they don't need to a certain version of cable.

Hi-Speed and it's fully 4K capable to current standards.
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I'm sure I remember it's over 10m and you need better quality. Otherwise the cheapest work fine.

I have cheap ones for all my devices with my 4K LG OLED. It all looks fantastic.
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You guys are probably right in that cheaper 4K cables would have worked just as well but having splurged out so much on essentially 3 Home Cinema systems, I felt that it was worthwhile investing on Audioquest and QED Performance cables.

Richer Sounds threw-in a couple of Chord Company cables with the lounge set-up.
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:29   #9
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Unfortunately, there's a lot of BS when it comes to cables.

For digital cables like HDMI it works properly or it doesn't. It's not like more expensive ones improve the audio or video. It's an on/off situation. If the run is too long for the cable, or the cable is poor quality you might get "sparklies" on the screen, but it's that obvious you'd see it as soon as you switched it on. Other than that you either have a picture or you don't.

Just make sure they're labelled Hi-Speed and that's it. Future knowledge if you ever need to swap or have more cables.
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With regards to the cables the 4K Player was another item I've seen players costing over a £1000 and makes me wonder how much the picture is than one that costs £200
Has anyone seen a direct comparison of cheaper 4k Player against a very expensive one ?
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I'm sure the £1000 player has better components, features, transport, DAC and blah.... blah.

Ultimately, again, it's transmitting a digital picture and sound, so it can only make the 0's so much fatter and the 1's so much thinner.

Any difference in quality will be minimal and you're more likely to be hampered by the quality of your TV.

I rip all my content to a NAS, my actual UHD player broke a few months ago and I've never bothered to replace it as I used it so little.
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I'm sure the £1000 player has better components, features, transport, DAC and blah.... blah.

Ultimately, again, it's transmitting a digital picture and sound, so it can only make the 0's so much fatter and the 1's so much thinner.

Any difference in quality will be minimal and you're more likely to be hampered by the quality of your TV.

I rip all my content to a NAS, my actual UHD player broke a few months ago and I've never bothered to replace it as I used it so little.

Richer Sounds actually threw in a Panasonic 4K player when I got my TV, I actually use the XBox for 4K discs!

Although never noticed a difference for the time I did use the dedicated spinner.
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Yep that's the reason I bought the Xbox One X too, for the 4k disc player.
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