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Old 02-09-2009, 18:58   #1
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Can I use skybox without a subscription?

I have an old sky installation but no box or subscription. My friend has a spare old box and said I could just connect it to my satellite and I should be able to get free to air channels - but is it illegal to use a skybox without a subscription?
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Old 02-09-2009, 19:10   #2
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Nope you can use it, obviously you won't get the subscription channels tho.
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Old 02-09-2009, 19:11   #3
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but is it illegal to use a skybox without a subscription?
No.

You will need a viewing card from Sky and you will be able to get these free channels:

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/freesat-tv-choice.aspx

The viewing card is £20:

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/faqs-freesat.aspx#q3
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Old 02-09-2009, 21:10   #5
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Without a card you'll only get the BBC & ITV channels along with Ch4, More 4 etc and I think music channel Scuzz & Zone Reality are another couple. If you don't bother to get a card channel 101 defaults to BBC London (as does ITV) but you can find your region in higher numbers near the radio stations.
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Old 03-09-2009, 00:09   #6
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Slight topic hi-jack:

I have a sky hd box with about 50% of the hd used. I have moved 'house' and where i am, we cannot have a dish, therefore i have cancelled my subs. Now, i cannot watch anything i have recorded onto the hd cos it comes up 'no satellite signal being received'. I have left my dish at my previuos address cos we're not allowed to put dishes up here.

Any way around this? Stuff i have recorded was done whilst paying my subs.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:56   #7
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You have to have a paying sub to access the stuff you have recorded onto the HD.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:36   #8
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You have to have a paying sub to access the stuff you have recorded onto the HD.
...and it is a security measure of the Sky+ and Sky+HD boxes that they will not work without a satellite feed. This is to stop people recording a shed load of stuff and then taking it round to a mates hourse to watch and also to stop the "kill" signal from being blocked. It would be easy to fill the HDD then unplug it from the satellite feed then watch all the stuff because the kill signal didn't get through to the card.

Downside is that if you have adverse weather (heavy snow normally) you can't watch your recorded stuff
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:52   #9
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...and it is a security measure of the Sky+ and Sky+HD boxes that they will not work without a satellite feed. This is to stop people recording a shed load of stuff and then taking it round to a mates hourse to watch and also to stop the "kill" signal from being blocked. It would be easy to fill the HDD then unplug it from the satellite feed then watch all the stuff because the kill signal didn't get through to the card.

Downside is that if you have adverse weather (heavy snow normally) you can't watch your recorded stuff
Ok thanks
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:09   #10
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Ok, sorry if I've missed the answer somewhere in this thread...we currently have he basic sky+HD package & a BIG discount but find that we barely watch any tv now. If I move to the "Freesat from sky" in Dec when the discount runs out, can I:
A. Stick the freesat card in the current sky+HD box & continue to use the sky+ facility
B. Stick the freesat card in the current sky+HD box & continue to receive the basic HD channels (4HD & BBC etc)?
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:29   #11
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No.

You will need a viewing card from Sky and you will be able to get these free channels:

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/freesat-tv-choice.aspx

The viewing card is £20:
You do not need a viewing card from Sky to access 99% of all the channels available on a Sky box without subscription.

The Freesatfromsky card gives you access to three encrypted FTV channels (Fiver, FiveUSA and Sky3) and that is all. All other channels are FTA, and do not require a card to be viewed. Five that appears on the Sky box EPG is also FTV (and therefore encrypted) but there is also a FTA version which is the same as the one that Freesat boxes pick up and can be found within the Other Channels section.



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Without a card you'll only get the BBC & ITV channels along with Ch4, More 4 etc and I think music channel Scuzz & Zone Reality are another couple. If you don't bother to get a card channel 101 defaults to BBC London (as does ITV) but you can find your region in higher numbers near the radio stations.
Not true - without a card you'll get over 100 free channels. With a card you'll get three more. A little bit different to BBC, ITV, Scuzz, Zone Reality and another couple.
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You do not need a viewing card from Sky to access 99% of all the channels available on a Sky box without subscription.

The Freesatfromsky card gives you access to three encrypted FTV channels (Fiver, FiveUSA and Sky3) and that is all.
Ok, this has confused me. We cancelled our Sky a few months back and I'm 95% sure we did not get the freesatfromsky card but we do get those 3 channels.
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Ok, this has confused me. We cancelled our Sky a few months back and I'm 95% sure we did not get the freesatfromsky card but we do get those 3 channels.
If you've left your old expired card in the box you will still get those three channels - any Sky card (active, disabled or Freesatfromsky card) registered in the UK will pick those channels up. The reason they are encrypted is to prevent people outside the UK from viewing them - but as long as you live in the UK, and have a card registered to your postcode, you can view them - whether you are a Sky subscriber or not.
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Old 04-09-2009, 17:35   #15
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Not true - without a card you'll get over 100 free channels. With a card you'll get three more. A little bit different to BBC, ITV, Scuzz, Zone Reality and another couple.
I couldn't be bothered to list every minor channel which is why I posted "etc" which you missed when quoting me.
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Even if you are using an old style card to watch those few channels (i.e Five US etc) I think you need to replace it now, as they will eventually stop working. You will also lose access to ITV etc.

www.sky.com/replacecard
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If you bought a Sky box or viewing card only from Freesat from Sky after 1st May 2006 then you are eligible for a free card. If not, you can purchase a replacement card.
It is a bit of a cheek making people pay again for the new card.
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I couldn't be bothered to list every minor channel which is why I posted "etc" which you missed when quoting me.
Ah, so "etc" is the other 100 or so channels you couldn't be bothered listing - which offer a much wider spectrum than BBC and ITV. So, in fact, it was a pointless post. Okay. Thanks.
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