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Old 13-11-2008, 13:22   #1
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Citizen Kane: R1 60th Anniversary Edition or R2 SE?

I have finally decided to pass on my single disc version of Citizen Kane and get one of the two available 2-disc versions. I have looked at the R1 60th anniversay Edition & the R2 Special Edition; both seem impressive, but there appears to be considerable difference in the extras list and they do not seem mutually duplicative. Since I have still not grasped all the nuances in the film and find it heavy going in places, any discussion or explanation in the extras could influence the choice, as long as there is not too much difference in picture quality.

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Old 13-11-2008, 15:57   #2
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I have actually got both but for me R1 is better. The Roger Ebert commentary which won some best commentary of the year thing and the Hearst documentary on the second disc make it the winner but the R2 does have some good stuff on it too.
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Old 13-11-2008, 16:04   #3
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This may be helpful-

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1145
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I have actually got both but for me R1 is better.
OK, thanks. I just took another look at the detailed list of extras on both sets via Rewind and like you, I think I also like the R1 set better. The gallery of storyboards and call sheets on the R1 set sound interesting and there are apparently some hidden extras like an interview with Ruth Warrick and the film editor Robert Wise. Also, the footage of the opening night should be good and that is not on R2. Finally, I could do without that Barry Norman commentary - I generally disagree with his views and his self-indulgent quips annoy me.

I just ordered the R1 Warner set from PlayUSA for Ł9.99 .
Thanks again for helping me to make the decision.
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Sounds like a good decision. The Barry Norman documentary on the R2 isn't at good at it looks he is a bit annoying.
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Old 15-11-2008, 23:34   #6
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I actually own both of those dvd's.
I do prefer the R1 version, because of the Ebert Commentary and the wonderful second dvd. So go for the R1.
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I actually own both of those dvd's.
I do prefer the R1 version, because of the Ebert Commentary and the wonderful second dvd. So go for the R1.
Thanks, I have already done so. Having looked at the list of extras (including the hidden ones) in detail, I realised that the R1 ones are far more varied and substantial than the R2 set. Frankly, I'd rather not listen to that Barry Norman's biased and boring views.

The only reason that I originally thought about the R2 set was that (assuming the extras were the same - which I now know are not) I had considered cover art better in the PAL set. Now I am not sure even that is the case. So R1 it is.
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I've always been suspicious of the amount of DNR the R1 transfer is supposed to have.
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I've always been suspicious of the amount of DNR the R1 transfer is supposed to have.
I am not sure what "DNR" is, but regarding transfrs, I recall reading somewhere - maybe Rewind - that the R1 transfer is 'smooth' while the R2 retains more of the "original grain". While I am quite nostalgic, I won't miss the picture grain .
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The Beaver mentions it too, and there was bit of a fuss at the time (which led to me getting the R2 over the R1). It's Digital Noise Reduction, and if applied too heavily can eradicate detail.
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IIRC the R1 had some aggressive DNR that removed stuff like visible raindrops.
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