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Old 11-01-2017, 23:17   #181
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Both my laptops have started doing this in the last week, but not noticed the desktops doing - I only watch the laptops lights / fans stopping so that I don't put them away while they're still on, next time I use one of them I'll check - although I've never noticed one way or another with them before so won't really prove anything
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:29   #182
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I can't even install the latest cumulative/security update on my main laptop as it waits at "preparing to install" as it gets to 3% then eventually fails. No other version of Windows has been so unreliable for me updates-wise.

I've run Microsoft's troubleshooter and I'm trying again, I'll dig through the log files later if it's still broken.
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:36   #183
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No other version of Windows has been so unreliable for me updates-wise.
You clearly haven't used Windows 7 in a while.
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:04   #184
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You clearly haven't used Windows 7 in a while.
I must have been quite lucky with Windows 7 - the only thing I've run into was the issue with Windows Update taking hours to scan (which Microsoft eventually fixed), but I haven't hit any install problems with the updates themselves.

Windows 10 though, the Anniversary Update rendered my machine unbootable (it kept rebooting and trying to roll back) and I had to restore from an image backup, and then I eventually managed to get it installed after taking various steps that I can't remember here, and a couple of times since I've had updates fail to install on the first try. Although this is the first one that's flat out failed even after reboots etc.
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:19   #185
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That hours to scan thing was largely what I was referring to. That's happened and been 'fixed' a ludicrous number of times now.

On another note my Windows 7 wrecked itself at work today. Profile damage, registry damage, file system errors, some services won't start (including those for sfc and windows update), system restore doesn't work. It's had a good life for a Windows OS - over two years. I need it to hang in there one more week. I've not got time to reinstall until the last week of the month!
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:28   #186
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Oh yes, the number of times they claimed to have "fixed" that was ridiculous. My mum's low-powered laptop took easily 8 hours to scan. Interesting timing that the only fix that ever worked for me was released after the Windows 10 upgrade offer had ended I bet that nudged quite a few people to upgrade. (Which she did, and a later Windows 10 update then rendered that unbootable - I rolled it back to a Windows 7 image since she was happy enough with that OS.)

Bad luck with your Windows 7 box! That's really done a comprehensive job of wrecking itself, that's "impressively" broken if it turns out to just be a software problem.
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:35   #187
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SMART data says the drive is OK. It could just be one really unlucky thing. The file system error it found could be in the registry accounting for the corruption there and damage to the registry could be the cause of any sorts of weird behaviour I guess and could account for all the rest?


Anyway, Visual Studio still loads and as long as that stays working until the 23rd - I'm happy.
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Old 12-01-2017, 19:45   #188
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Yeah I guess all it needs is something to manage to corrupt filesystem metadata before it's written to disk and it all cascades from there. At least you have VS
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Old 12-01-2017, 22:32   #189
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Well... that was "fun"

sfc /scannow found nothing

Updated Eset NOD 32 from 10.0.369 to 10.0.386 and rebooted.

Update then installed straight away, rebooted to complete the update... and it promptly got stuck for over an hour on a black screen with the spinning dots. No sign of other activity.

Nothing else for it, powered off... started up, and the update has installed ok. (Or at least Windows Update says it has.)

Perhaps it wasn't necessarily the OS at fault. No way to know now. I had rebooted etc multiple times before I tried the above.


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Old 13-01-2017, 06:43   #190
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Nod has been responsible for breaking Windows 10 at least once before...

It required manually modifying the reqistry to repair it: http://www.askvg.com/fix-desktop-ico...in-windows-10/

I stopped using it after that. It had caused more inconvenience than any virus I'd ever had.
As had Kaspersky and Bitdefender. The big names are rubbish at W10

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Old 13-01-2017, 08:52   #191
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I'm using Symantec Endpoint Protection but that needed updating to a different version for W10 as well..

The old version needed uninstalling before installing W10 or W10 would fail the install.

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Old 13-01-2017, 17:26   #192
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Although I a still using Windows 8.1. But want to congratulation windows 10 on its anniversary.
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Old 13-01-2017, 22:35   #193
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I've had ESET for years and never had a problem including windows 10.
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Old 13-01-2017, 23:59   #194
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Time to live dangerously again...




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Old 14-01-2017, 08:17   #195
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I've had ESET for years and never had a problem including windows 10.
if your Windows icons weren't manually organised you may have just not noticed. Or if you went a long while without Eset getting any engine updates for some reason. But they did break Windows 10 icon arranging -by altering a registry key incorrectly. It's all over the internets.

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Old 14-01-2017, 13:19   #196
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The creators update is much the same so far. ..

Small issue my Webroote is having a bit of a barney and asking me to approve a load of processes. Still running fine mind. Might have something to do with a change to Windows services. They've separated every service into a separate process in the task manager. You can see them all and how much resources they are using. Really handy and according to MS this is for better reliability and memory management. Before the services were teamed into a handful of 'svchost.exe' processes. Now there are over 30 svchosts and I've gone from 90 running processes to between 130-150. Should be more friendly to more cores though.
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Old 14-01-2017, 23:04   #197
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Does anyone use this?
Any views on it?
Using it now as it appears to have helped with some issues,

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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Most of them are here.... and the wifi options like 'connect to open access points' and 'sharing wifi keys' etc options are in the wifi settings.



I don't have Windows 10 apps like Facebook and I don't use my microsoft email account (which is auto-logged in on the W10 email app/client) for anything... so there isn't any info on my PC that is going to MS via most of their telemetry. The main one people don't like is the keyboard/typing 'learning' ... which is easy to turn off as it's front and centre on the privacy page above.

FYI. This is the new Privacy page on Windows Creators update.. can't remember how much was in it on the regular release?

Either way.. I wouldn't download a program like that, just as a rule of thumb. I'd rather know what privacy concerning features are enabled on my computer and turn them off myself. Worst case scenario, I'd say that Microsoft is statistically more trustworthy, so its better to have the features on... than it is to rely on a random website exe download to have your back and not to compromise your system.

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Old 19-01-2017, 13:36   #199
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I've got a nuc that I use as a basic server and I've just moved it over to Windows after realising I will never work Linux out but it's got a external 4TB USB drive which seems to be the loudest drive imaginable and every so often it will just spin up. Is there any easy way of working out what's accessing it? It seems to be completely random or when I run something that has no reason to touch the drive.

It's insane how loud it is. It's a Seagate 5900rpm drive that infinitely louder than any other 5400rpm drive.
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Old 19-01-2017, 15:12   #200
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More often than not, Windows (when looking for updates or something) polls all the drives to determine free space to work out the best drive to use for temp storage. Sometimes when plugging in a USB drive, I've been suprised to find Windows will suddenly use it for expanding updates onto.
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