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Johnr
21-06-2006, 17:28
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5133312.htm

It is probably a brick but I'm guessing it would be a 2.5" hard drive? So even if the actual MP3 functions are crap it would make a nice and fairly small external hard drive?

Just remember you can't take it back unless faulty

jkd41
21-06-2006, 17:32
Got one of these at Xmas,and it's actually a very good mp3 player.Paid 80 so it's a bargain at this price.

Johnr
21-06-2006, 17:32
Some pics on this auction (http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-582776-9479574?loc=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Venturer-HDD-Digital-Audio-Player-40GB-N-R_W0QQitemZ9744239640QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Gazbert
21-06-2006, 19:21
I saw this in an Argos store the other day. Yep, it is huge, but you won't get that kind of capacity elsewhere for that price.

nwgarratt
21-06-2006, 20:02
I saw this in an Argos store the other day. Yep, it is huge, but you won't get that kind of capacity elsewhere for that price.

I paid 90 and it is fantastic. One tip. Make sure it is charged properly straight away. Also, it needs a half to fully charged battery to be operated by USB without external power needed. It uses quite a bit of power transferring files.

The size of it doesn't bother me at all and I prefer to have it that size than a small Ipod. I find them difficult to operate.

It also works a external HDD and uses just drag and drop to put files on it. It doesn't charge by USB.

voyager7
21-06-2006, 20:15
Great spot OP! Does anyone who has one know if the mp3 playback is simply drag 'n drop and it is simply recognised as an external Hard Drive (i.e. it does not need to transfer mp3 files through any software)

Thanks in advance!

cblanc
21-06-2006, 20:57
It's just seen as an external hard drive. Just drag and drop to your hearts content

sappho
21-06-2006, 21:01
whats the model number of this item and the support web site?

Also how long does the battery last for per charge?

ForcedV
21-06-2006, 21:23
Do you think it's possible to swap the 40gb hard drive from this to the Archos AV300 that SPV are selling ?

DJWillis
21-06-2006, 21:43
There is loads of info in the thread (http://www.thedvdforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=408738) about the player from Jan :).

Looks like a decent player and I may have to pick one up at the weekend for the car.

nwgarratt
21-06-2006, 22:03
There is loads of info in the thread (http://www.thedvdforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=408738) about the player from Jan :).

Looks like a decent player and I may have to pick one up at the weekend for the car.

They are excellent for the car.


The model is HDP3202BS and it is sealed up so it is not possible to get the HDD or even the rechargeable battery out . It is only available from Argos (not inc Ebay).

Not much of a website and it doesn't seem to be on there.
http://www.venturer.com/

Hernster
21-06-2006, 22:21
Reviews of this are inconclusive, does it have a random/shuffle option?

:help:

ForcedV
21-06-2006, 22:29
There must be a way to open one up and change the hard drive ?????????

nwgarratt
21-06-2006, 22:35
Reviews of this are inconclusive, does it have a random/shuffle option?

:help:

It has a Shuffle and Shuffle All function.

ought
21-06-2006, 23:51
mm.. also tempted for the car.. How could I plug it in other than a cumbersome audio tape converter?

nwgarratt
22-06-2006, 12:32
mm.. also tempted for the car.. How could I plug it in other than a cumbersome audio tape converter?


You need a stereo with a line in.

dblake
22-06-2006, 13:01
You need a stereo with a line in.

Or one of them FM transmitter jobbies! :)

Hernster
22-06-2006, 14:47
It has a Shuffle and Shuffle All function.

Thanks very much. :)

~UKJEZZA~
22-06-2006, 14:49
Picked one of these up at lunchtime today, cheers OP!! :thumbs:

~UKJEZZA~
22-06-2006, 15:07
They are excellent for the car.


The model is HDP3202BS and it is sealed up so it is not possible to get the HDD or even the rechargeable battery out . It is only available from Argos (not inc Ebay).

Not much of a website and it doesn't seem to be on there.
http://www.venturer.com/


Venturer Europe HERE (http://www.venturer.eu.com/(fnmmn155scgixl55fi0wmv45)/venturer-products/product-detail.aspx?id=57)

jediross
22-06-2006, 16:53
Only usb 1.1, dont fancy transferring 40Gb using that!!

nwgarratt
22-06-2006, 17:17
Only usb 1.1, dont fancy transferring 40Gb using that!!

Speed isn't important to me. I just start uploading/dowloading and walk away. It does 1GB in about 5 minutes and about 3 hours to fill all 40GB (in real terms in is about 37GB).

stormywhether
22-06-2006, 18:06
does this come with software for converting cds to mp3s? if not, anyone recommend some?

SavouryTex
22-06-2006, 18:12
EAC (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) is a pretty good freeware CD to MP3 converter.

RonnyJ
22-06-2006, 20:06
Only usb 1.1, dont fancy transferring 40Gb using that!!It's USB2.0 according to the manual, though I haven't tried it out yet.

randz
22-06-2006, 21:59
It is USB 2.0. Thanks OP. This will go nicely in the car.

sm
23-06-2006, 09:27
thanks op picked up one yesterday evening - bit peeved that it looks like it's been used (few marks and not that well packed) but for the money don't think I'll take it back.

Not tried it yet

monarch3577
23-06-2006, 10:22
Does anyone have any idea how long the battery lasts or if it's chargeable by USB ?

I fancy one for the car, but not if I have to keep charging it after every journey.

Cheers,
A

mikegray
23-06-2006, 10:26
My mate bought one yesterday and it said 12 hours for battery, and don't *THINK* it charges from USB but I haven't got one, so don't take that as gospel.

~UKJEZZA~
23-06-2006, 11:15
It DOESN'T charge via USB but DOES last approx 8 to 12 hours according to their website and the manual.........
Nice bit of kit having had a play with it..............really like the blue display and the menu is logical and user friendly..........cracking price at 49.99 for that size too!
Thanks again to the OP :thumbs:

nwgarratt
23-06-2006, 12:06
I have had the battery last 16 hours and more.

pault
23-06-2006, 12:33
I picked one of these up last night, I'm very happy with the sound quality, better than my on board pc sound by miles and a bazillion times better than the crappy 20gb mp3 I bought before. Only flaw is it's big and fugly (IMO), but for the price I can't really grumble, cheers to the OP.

nwgarratt
23-06-2006, 12:35
The sound quality is great and is the best MP3 player I have heard.

36Degrees
23-06-2006, 19:47
Anyone know if you can get it to play a playlist file (m3u/whatever?)

Bought one today, ta OP... very impressed so far with it!

nwgarratt
23-06-2006, 19:59
Anyone know if you can get it to play a playlist file (m3u/whatever?)

Bought one today, ta OP... very impressed so far with it!


You have to create your own playlist by selecting each track by pressing enter rather than play. Then go the main music menu and select playlist.

ivanwilson
24-06-2006, 00:19
Help

Does anyone know how to turn the Beep off?

Napoleon
24-06-2006, 07:34
Can you cycle with this sort of player(mini hard drive),or will it cause problems?.

BiscLimpkit
24-06-2006, 09:58
I just got paid... so it's very tempting... cheers OP min.

mitch2000
24-06-2006, 11:25
Picked up one on Thursday and IMO it's a great piece of kit. Really easy to use and excellent sound quality. Not quite iPod style but for 50 it's perfect, 40Gb Capacity and the ability to use it as an external drive.

andrew502
24-06-2006, 14:14
Appears it plays WMA DRM files (no, I'm not a fan of DRM) too. I'm away off now to pick one up.

Wurm
24-06-2006, 17:24
The HD is a seagate ST9402113A in these.

Sound quality is about average for a portable player. Same for the features, average (limited).

The player is almost gapless, about 1/10th gap between tracks which will get annoying quick if listening to electro/prog-rock or similar.

I've used two that both give shocks if you touch the screws whilst it's charging - I'd imagine it's a fault in the batch rather than all the players. Not a huge problem, just don't touch whilst charging.

mbuckhurst
24-06-2006, 17:36
The HD is a seagate ST9402113A in these.

Sound quality is about average for a portable player. Same for the features, average (limited).

The player is almost gapless, about 1/10th gap between tracks which will get annoying quick if listening to electro/prog-rock or similar.

I've used two that both give shocks if you touch the screws whilst it's charging - I'd imagine it's a fault in the batch rather than all the players. Not a huge problem, just don't touch whilst charging.

Shocks of a 5v device, what are you doing sticking in your mouth? :lol:

I've not come across many players that can play gapless, especially since it's not actually easy to achieve a gapless MP3, I've added a hacked bios to my iRiver and it can't manage perfect gapless due to the MP3 file structure.

Sound quality from my experience is better than average, not as good as my iRiver, but a darn site better than the creative flash mp3 I did have. I'd agree on features.

but, for 50, I'm treating it as a useful external drive, which just happens to play MP3s.

mike

nwgarratt
24-06-2006, 18:46
but, for 50, I'm treating it as a useful external drive, which just happens to play MP3s.

mike

I think that as well and I paid 90 for it.

Sound quality is excellent and can be improved when using decent headphones/earphones. It sounds better than the Ipod I tried out for a while (same earphones used).

Wurm
25-06-2006, 08:41
I've not come across many players that can play gapless, especially since it's not actually easy to achieve a gapless MP3, I've added a hacked bios to my iRiver and it can't manage perfect gapless due to the MP3 file structure.

My iriver (with rockbox, which is what I assume you meant when you said 'hacked' firmware) can certainly play back proper gapless mp3s. lame since 3.90.x has encoded mp3s so they playback gapless flawlessly.

The Rio Karma can playback mp3 gaplessly with the native firmware. The Cowon iaudio x5 plays back with a fraction of a second gap the same as the venturer.


Sound quality from my experience is better than average, not as good as my iRiver, but a darn site better than the creative flash mp3 I did have. I'd agree on features.

I find sound quality on portable players much-of-a-muchness. iriver, Cowon x5 and some of the Sony players are above average, Apple & Creatives below average and everything else pretty much the same.

As you say, it's a usefull secondary mp3 player & portable HD in one.

ForcedV
25-06-2006, 10:29
Any opening info available to remove and replace the hard-drive ?

Wurm
25-06-2006, 12:16
Any opening info available to remove and replace the hard-drive ?

As I said earlier the HD is a seagate ST9402113A. (http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/ata/st9402113a.html)

That seagate range goes upto 100gb.

Opening it is easy, four screws on the sides of the player, then take the top off. Then remove the ide daughterboard from the drive and pull it out.

Once the HD is out there are another four screws to remove if you want to get at the battery (not needed just to change the HD though).

Johnr
25-06-2006, 14:44
Do you think it would be possible to put a smaller or larger hard drive in?

escape_adil5
25-06-2006, 21:09
:lol: at wurms subject lines, you copying and pasting them from somewhere?

drew
25-06-2006, 22:24
Mrs Drew has got one and there's a couple of things wrong with it.

Sometimes (not on the same track!) it stops 3 secs from the end. Dunno why. The other annoyance is she built up a playlist only to find it gone, for no reason.

Otherwise it's OK.

stevemowbray
26-06-2006, 10:05
Mrs Drew has got one and there's a couple of things wrong with it.

Sometimes (not on the same track!) it stops 3 secs from the end. Dunno why. The other annoyance is she built up a playlist only to find it gone, for no reason.



I haven't tried a playlist but I haven't noticed any problems like stopping before
the end of tracks. Have you tried reformatting it? Sounds like the sort of thing
which could be caused by a corrupt hard drive.

Many thanks to the OP by the way, I think it's a fantastic bargain and I'm
greatly enjoying carrying virtually the whole of my CD collection around with me.

allan175
26-06-2006, 12:42
Thanks OP. I picked one up yesterday (Birchwood Argos, just the display one left there after I'd gone (in a cabinet though)).

Its great, I have an old DAP Jukebox which is a bit of a pain but this is great and can hold everything I have and still have space for use as an external drive. Sound quality is good (not tried the supplied headphones, I had a (cheapish) pair sitting on my desk already).

dvsales
26-06-2006, 17:51
One thing that i find annoying is when you set the preset equaliser to bass it reverts back to normal when unit is turned off. Anyone know if there is a solution.

Steve

P MOSS
26-06-2006, 18:28
Can anyone help

Ive bought one, how do i get my pc to recognise it ???

im running on xp ???

dvsales
26-06-2006, 18:39
It should pick it up automaticaly once plugged in. Make sure the plug from the usb lead is firmly pushed into the player.

steve

pandaboy
26-06-2006, 18:45
Cheers OP, I'm going to pick one up tomorrow! :thumbs:

nwgarratt
26-06-2006, 19:01
Make sure it is fully charged (16 hours I believe for the first time then it is much less afterwards) before attaching it to the computer without the psu. It still requires the battery to be charged as it doesn't get enough power from the USB socket. I had a period of time where the unit would turn itself after after about 15 minutes. It was due to insufficient charging. It should last hours when on USB and charged properly.

nathankw
26-06-2006, 19:23
I got one of these yesterday (thanks OP).
Works well and sounds very good.

One issue - a lot of the albums I've loaded in play the tracks in the wrong order.
How do I make sure they're played in the correct order?

thanks,

n

nwgarratt
26-06-2006, 21:44
I use the file/folder option to view albums. I alphabetise the artist then sub folder into albums I then use 01,02,03 etc for the tracks. They play in the right order.

Eurythmics - Savage - 01 Beethoven.mp3 etc

Neil F
27-06-2006, 09:41
Cheers to OP. I got one of these yesterday.

One problem i have is, when I switch it on, it says charging for a few secs then turns off. this is without the charger plugged into it! I can get it to stay on by pressing play while it's displaying 'charging', but then the backlight doesn't time out (set to 10 secs)

Anyone else see anything like this. I've tried a reset with no joy :(

cheers
Neil

nwgarratt
27-06-2006, 12:28
How long have you charged it up for?

Neil F
27-06-2006, 13:28
i charged it for 12 hours as stated in the manual. I've decided to take it back as broken now anyway. I've gone for a 20gb player thats on today only at scan.

thanks for the reply :)
Neil

DennyL
27-06-2006, 14:04
I don't suppose they play Ogg-Vorbis, do they?

ForcedV
27-06-2006, 22:02
Is there a firmware download available for this player ?

stevemowbray
28-06-2006, 11:51
I don't suppose they play Ogg-Vorbis, do they?

No, MP3 and WMA only. (I did try Ogg in case it just wasn't metioned in
the manual).

DennyL
28-06-2006, 13:27
Oh well, I bought one, my first dedicated MP3 player. I also have MP3s on my phone and Ogg on my PDA.

I ripped a couple of CDs and put them on and it seems great. Pity there isn't a line out for my headphone amp, although the sound quality seems decent from the headphone out.

What I don't understand is that it has 'Genre' and 'Playlist' in the menu, and a way of browsing to files and selecting them for a playlist, but no alpha keyboard functionality to enter a playlist or genre name (this can be done with my PDA and phone). Can anyone help me with this?

AdminSpod
28-06-2006, 13:55
Interesting spot OP.
"Includes software for Windows 98 operating." does not bode well!
Does anybody know if it works with XP?

nwgarratt
28-06-2006, 13:58
Interesting spot OP.
"Includes software for Windows 98 operating." does not bode well!
Does anybody know if it works with XP?

Yes it does. It is plug and play with no drivers like other USB devices. It comes with a USB driver for win98.

AdminSpod
28-06-2006, 14:30
Thanks nwgarratt.
Cheers OP!

TERMIN8TOR
28-06-2006, 15:32
Can this be used like a dictaphone recorder? If so, does it save in MP3 format and any idea what length of recording can be made? Thanks

Johnr
28-06-2006, 17:04
Got mine today, ripped out the hard drive (Very easy, just take 4 screws out with a small screwdriver and the back comes off with direct view of the hard drive. Getting the hard drive off the ribbon cable without damaging the ribbon cable was a little tricky.

Any idea if the HDD is just a blank one? i.e. can I put any old 2.5" hard drive in the player?

nwgarratt
28-06-2006, 17:13
Can this be used like a dictaphone recorder? If so, does it save in MP3 format and any idea what length of recording can be made? Thanks

It does have dictation facilty. It saves in a strange WAV format that doesn't play on the computer.

TERMIN8TOR
28-06-2006, 17:35
It does have dictation facilty. It saves in a strange WAV format that doesn't play on the computer.

Interesting. Thanks.

I was planning on using one of these rather than the usual tapes and converting them to mp3s. Anyone tried this yet?

asadmm
28-06-2006, 18:00
Re the use as dictaphone can you plug in a microphone or do you have to use the usually poor built in one ?

nwgarratt
28-06-2006, 20:05
Re the use as dictaphone can you plug in a microphone or do you have to use the usually poor built in one ?


It can use the headphone socket as a line in.

Snoopy
29-06-2006, 14:08
Can anyone reccomend some decent, cheapish speakers to go with this please.

sm
29-06-2006, 14:31
Can anyone reccomend some decent, cheapish speakers to go with this please.

how cheap? plugged into the Creative DAB 500 radio currently 39.99 at Amazon (see other thread) it sounds very good.

Edi_J
03-07-2006, 23:57
Is there any way to convert the 'WAV' files this thing records?

mikegray
04-07-2006, 00:00
Is there any way to convert the 'WAV' files this thing records?

This was discussed earlier in the thread, with the conclusion being 'no'.

Saw the one my friend bought over the weekend. It's a bit of a design classic (unfortunately the design in question is a 1970s walkman) but for the money, you can't argue and the sound quality seemed very good.

sperky
04-07-2006, 10:36
This was discussed earlier in the thread, with the conclusion being 'no'.

Saw the one my friend bought over the weekend. It's a bit of a design classic (unfortunately the design in question is a 1970s walkman) but for the money, you can't argue and the sound quality seemed very good.


Yer but it would have looked really Retro if they shoved a few dummy buttons on the side...